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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 6, 2022 14:11:32 GMT
I wanted FSU to play Texas (never played each other) or Oklahoma (revenge is a dish best served cold)
We got the revenge game
>Bobby Bowden got rolling early in 1979 & 1980. Oklahoma ended a 1979 undefeated season with a win over the Noles in the Orange Bowl. And beat FSU again in 1980 in an Orange Bowl rematch
>The Big One: Oklahoma beats FSU 13-2 in the Orange Bowl (2000 season). What the hell happened to Chris Weinke that game? how did we lose?
>The blowout in Norman in 2010. FSU loses to Oklahoma 47-17 in pure annihilation. FSU also lost to OU in 2011 at home in Tallahassee, although by a much closer margin.
So...we owe Oklahoma. I hope Norvell drops 50 on them
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 6, 2022 13:54:19 GMT
3600 + players entered in the Transfer Portal. That combined with the player purchasing power of NIL ? .......Give me your father's or even grandfather's college football
I love the transfer portal
Why is FSU looking at a 10-3 record? Norvell built his team from the portal.
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 6, 2022 13:50:41 GMT
the end of the 80s and 90s dominance of Miami, FSU, and Nebraska came quick and suddenly in the early 2000s. In 2001, FSU replaced Chris Weinke with Chris Rix, and the slow decline began for the Noles. Eric Crouch walked off the field in the '02 Rose Bowl after getting annihilated by Miami in the Rose Bowl, and that was pretty much it for Nebraska. Oklahoma was revived and took over the Big 12 and Texas emerged as well. Miami looked unstoppable for a few years, but by 2005, they were getting their heads kicked in by LSU 40-3 in the Peach Bowl. They've never really recovered.
The 2000s was a mix of old and new, freshly "elite" teams with LSU, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio State and Florida, but by the end of the decade, the SEC was starting to take over.
And then Alabama happened. The 2011 and 2012 Championships helped create Alabama as the gold standard in college football, and the path to championships has gone through Tuscaloosa pretty much up till this year.
2013 - Auburn beat Alabama with "the kick 6", setting up FSU vs. Auburn 2014 - Ezekial Elliot and Urban Meyer lead Ohio State over Alabama 2015 - Clemson finally emerges but falls short to Alabama 2016 - Clemson finally wins establishing themselves 2017 - Alabama, behind in the National Championship, whips out Tua to beat Georgia 2018 - Clemson beats Alabama 2019 - With a team of the ages, LSU manages to beat Alabama and Clemson 2020 - The short covid season goes to Alabama 2021 - Georgia gets blown out in the SEC championship, only to get a mulligan, a 2nd chance to beat Alabama
The 2010s also saw complete Big 10 dominance by Ohio State and Big XII dominance by Oklahoma, but it was largely the decade of Clemson and Alabama.
I'm writing this overly long background to say...I think we're on the edge of a change of the guard again. Clemson lost to South Carolina and missed the playoff for the 2nd straight year
Michigan has now beaten Ohio State for the 2nd straight year Alabama is starting to not feel like the gold standard anymore...too many close games, where are the stifling defenses and bruising RBs? it feels like LSU, Tennessee, and especially Georgia are gaining ground on Alabama in the SEC
I'm not saying Ohio State, Alabama, and Clemson dynasties are done...but its quite possible they are beginning to lose ground. Oklahoma looks like the first victim. I don't see them owning the Big XII like they have, and it won't be too long now before they are SEC anyways.
If Georgia repeats, do they become the new gold standard?
USC is on the way up. FSU is reviving. Feels like we're on the edge of a change of the guard.
Now I can look forward to 2023. No year is complete until EV declares BAMA is finished. Laughing Georgia is on top right now. USC is better but I wish they had made the playoffs just so you could see them get smashed by a really good team. Utah dominated them. One point is clear but maybe not for the reason you think. College football as I have known it my entire life no longer exists. Well, I had Alabama winning it all this year...what happened lol?
I still think Alabama is the gold standard, but I wonder what a second Georgia championship does for recruiting. LSU and Tennessee are on the way up as well.
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 6, 2022 13:45:54 GMT
My takes regarding Bama and Clemson Regarding Bama, they still have a ton of talent. They only lost 2 games and were one spot away from a CFP shot. Pretty hard to say this era has come to an end. A couple of observations. Bryce Young did have some injuries but did not have a great year. I am basing this primarily on a few games that I saw where his accuracy was just off. Last year he I rarely saw him miss any open receivers. The second thing and what I veiw as the more concerning thing is the amount of penalties that Bama committed throughout the season. It just seems like there was a lack of discipline within the program. My biggest question regarding Bama would be related to how the coaching staff is connecting with the players. With John Cooper you could see the end coming where the players were just out of touch with the coaching staff and there was a big disconnect. If Saban is going in this direction then it could very well be coming to an end. Regarding Clemson, they are still getting talent but Swinney's decision not to use the portal intially has hurt. They have had a very dynamic offense for quite some time but know you start to wonder if it is the coaching and schemes or the high caliber QB's they had. The decision to stick with DJ looks to be a costly one at the moment. Secondly losing Venables was huge. There defense was scary good and has definitely taken a step back. Moving forward I will still expect Bama to be the dominate team in the SEC West. I do think Clemson will continue to move closer to the pack. What concerns me about the trajectory of Alabama: > the number of close games, especially with teams that Alabama should be beating badly > the way teams can run on Alabama; never used to happen in the early days of the Tide dynasty > the other elite teams seem to be gaining on them. Brian Kelly beats Alabama in his first year > Saban is older > turnover of assistants might actually be catching up with them
That said, they are still getting 10 win seasons. So are we going to see Alabama back in a National Championship game soon? or are we going to witness a startling 8-4 season at some point
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 5, 2022 0:14:43 GMT
Definitely a tough draw. I would expect: Wins: Penn State, Michigan, Minnesota Losses: Illinois, Purdue, Iowa, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Maryland Plus wins by future members USC and UCLA. I think USC and UCLA will help the conference. Nebraska hasn't added much, and Maryland and Rutgers felt like market grabs
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 5, 2022 0:09:07 GMT
I expect them to
Their most talented team in Ohio State is gonna have to deal with Georgia
I don't buy the Michigan hype either...they won't be better than anything TCU has already seen in the Big XII
After those two, its a long drop
Utah wins the Rose Bowl LSU destroys Purdue Kentucky vs. Iowa NC State vs. Maryland Syracuse vs Minnesota Oklahoma State vs. Wisconsin Miss St. vs. Illinois
Big 10 0-9 in bowls? they'll be lucky to snatch 2 wins out of this lineup
Soft
I’ll take Illinois over a mediocre Miss State team, it wouldn’t surprise me if Penn State beat Utah ,and Michigan beats TCU, Purdue-LSU will be closer than you think….. and if Jackson smith Njigba plays I think TOSU will push Georgia probably even further than Michigan would…..: that’s a big game changer that could be coming back Georgia is a juggernaut....
I don't know man. LSU has good WRs too, but that wasn't the problem. Stetson bennett looks better this year, and they have two TEs that are studs and hard to defend. Their defense shuts down the run pretty good too
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 23:45:25 GMT
the end of the 80s and 90s dominance of Miami, FSU, and Nebraska came quick and suddenly in the early 2000s. In 2001, FSU replaced Chris Weinke with Chris Rix, and the slow decline began for the Noles. Eric Crouch walked off the field in the '02 Rose Bowl after getting annihilated by Miami in the Rose Bowl, and that was pretty much it for Nebraska. Oklahoma was revived and took over the Big 12 and Texas emerged as well. Miami looked unstoppable for a few years, but by 2005, they were getting their heads kicked in by LSU 40-3 in the Peach Bowl. They've never really recovered.
The 2000s was a mix of old and new, freshly "elite" teams with LSU, USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio State and Florida, but by the end of the decade, the SEC was starting to take over.
And then Alabama happened. The 2011 and 2012 Championships helped create Alabama as the gold standard in college football, and the path to championships has gone through Tuscaloosa pretty much up till this year.
2013 - Auburn beat Alabama with "the kick 6", setting up FSU vs. Auburn 2014 - Ezekial Elliot and Urban Meyer lead Ohio State over Alabama 2015 - Clemson finally emerges but falls short to Alabama 2016 - Clemson finally wins establishing themselves 2017 - Alabama, behind in the National Championship, whips out Tua to beat Georgia 2018 - Clemson beats Alabama 2019 - With a team of the ages, LSU manages to beat Alabama and Clemson 2020 - The short covid season goes to Alabama 2021 - Georgia gets blown out in the SEC championship, only to get a mulligan, a 2nd chance to beat Alabama
The 2010s also saw complete Big 10 dominance by Ohio State and Big XII dominance by Oklahoma, but it was largely the decade of Clemson and Alabama.
I'm writing this overly long background to say...I think we're on the edge of a change of the guard again. Clemson lost to South Carolina and missed the playoff for the 2nd straight year
Michigan has now beaten Ohio State for the 2nd straight year Alabama is starting to not feel like the gold standard anymore...too many close games, where are the stifling defenses and bruising RBs? it feels like LSU, Tennessee, and especially Georgia are gaining ground on Alabama in the SEC
I'm not saying Ohio State, Alabama, and Clemson dynasties are done...but its quite possible they are beginning to lose ground. Oklahoma looks like the first victim. I don't see them owning the Big XII like they have, and it won't be too long now before they are SEC anyways.
If Georgia repeats, do they become the new gold standard?
USC is on the way up. FSU is reviving. Feels like we're on the edge of a change of the guard.
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 22:18:19 GMT
Any bets on how many Alabama players opt out?
This will be a great opportunity for Alabama players to party and Saban to get some cajun food. For K-State, this is their Super Bowl
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 22:15:44 GMT
I expect them to
Their most talented team in Ohio State is gonna have to deal with Georgia
I don't buy the Michigan hype either...they won't be better than anything TCU has already seen in the Big XII
After those two, its a long drop
Utah wins the Rose Bowl LSU destroys Purdue Kentucky vs. Iowa NC State vs. Maryland Syracuse vs Minnesota Oklahoma State vs. Wisconsin Miss St. vs. Illinois
Big 10 0-9 in bowls? they'll be lucky to snatch 2 wins out of this lineup
Soft
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 22:04:26 GMT
It will be a quantum leap forward for FBS football. Can't wait. If this 4 team Invitational system is broken , just think of the injustices of the 2 team 'Invitational' ( BCS system ) and the long history of 'opinionated', so called, national champions. Anyway, IMO, it will become more perfectly fair when ALL FBS conferences get a shot. This year, like MOST years... we only needed a TWO TEAM playoff. Michigan and Georgia should be playing for the title. No one else has qualified. Could other teams win, if granted mulligans? Sure. But, for >100 years, that hasn't been the way college football works. Bevo misses the days of split national championships
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 18:40:34 GMT
someone else posted this on another board....not sure if its totally accurate, but its close
1st Round:
#12 Tulane (11-2) at #5 TCU (12-1) #11 USC (11-2) at #6 Ohio State (11-1) #10 Utah (10-3) at #7 Tennessee (10-2) #9 Penn State (10-2) at #8 Alabama (10-2)
2nd Round:
#1 Georgia (13-0) goes to Sugar Bowl #2 Michigan (13-0) goes to Rose Bowl #3 Kansas State (10-3) goes to Cotton Bowl #4 Clemson (11-2) goes to Orange Bowl
who would not want to see these games?
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 18:15:38 GMT
Please tell me FSU is playing Oklahoma or Texas in the Cheeze It Bowl...
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 14:21:09 GMT
So why did the Big XII get a championship game despite playing a round robin format?
Because the committee left them out in 2014. The Big XII didn't have that "13th" data point...
That was also the first year of the 4-team playoff and the committee. We would find out soon afterwards that there are no rules, the committee just makes up whatever they want. That's why this format is a complete joke
Trying to create as much doubt as possible. The BIG12 has a history of making the dumbest decisions possible. As evidenced by the fact they just allowed their two biggest brands to leave. They seem to want out of the P5. They are well on their way. Bad take by Hero here...
The point is, the Big XII was reacting to imaginary, ever-changing rules the committee suggested
But to the second point, the Big XII has lost Nebraska, Mizzou, Colorado, Texas A&M, and now Texas and Oklahoma. They have done a great job at surviving these blows, and continue to compete at a high level in both major sports. The Big East evaporated. The ACC has failed on many levels to gain ground as a conference. The PAC 12 could still easily implode.
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 14:10:30 GMT
Semifinals: Peach Bowl: #1 Georgia vs. #4 Ohio State Fiesta Bowl: #2 Michigan vs. #3 TCU Rest of NY6 Bowls: Orange Bowl: Clemson vs. Tennessee Rose Bowl: Penn State vs. UtahCotton Bowl: USC vs. TulaneSugar Bowl: Kansas State vs. Alabama
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Most of the NY6 picture is starting to solidify
I don't think TCU moves at all, not just that they had a better season than either Alabama or Ohio State, but also it is convenient for the committee to avoid a Michigan-Ohio State rematch.
Tulane made it in last night with a win over UCF
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Post by EvilVodka on Dec 4, 2022 0:35:47 GMT
Just think of this....
Ohio State got blown out in their last game TCU lost in their conference championship game
I know Georgia has it wrapped up, but what if Georgia and Michigan lost their championship games?
We would still be getting the same 4 teams for the National Championship playoff....These teams could have literally backed their way in and we'd have the same resulting matchups...
That's why this system is broken. Is this rewarding the regular season?
The 12-team playoff will fix all of this...actual rules and format
Win your conference and you are most likely in.
TCU, Ohio State, Tennessee, and Alabama would all be in, as they should. But they will be playing in the opening round, as they should.
The Top 4 conference champs get byes
Kansas State and Utah would be in. the ACC Champ will be in. Georgia would get a bye.
College football will actually become a legitimate sport
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