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Nov 6, 2022 14:34:48 GMT
Post by EvilVodka on Nov 6, 2022 14:34:48 GMT
The Strength Everywhere Conference loses to Jerry Falwell U.....at home !!! ? Are you talking about the Liberty win over Arkansas? lol
I really don't get the massive SEC bias...they have the best amount of top teams, and they have the most success in winning national championships, but a conference's strength is based up on the entire conference, not just the top teams
After Alabama, Georgia, and LSU (and this year Tennessee), the conference starts to get mediocre quick. Texas A&M, Florida and Auburn are not that great.
Georgia struggled with a Missouri team that Kansas St. blew out 40-12
Alabama barely beat a Texas team that lost to Texas Tech and Oklahoma State
Tennessee went to overtime with 5-4 Pitt.
And now Arkansas takes one on the chin to....Liberty
The top teams are elite, but the rest of the conference is simply just good or even mediocre. With the upcoming 12 team playoff, I think you'll see a lot more variety in who wins National Championships
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 6, 2022 13:51:35 GMT
I think Oregon benefited the most from yesterday's results
They still have tough games ahead, but their offense with QB Bo Nix is playing at a high level. They probably won't be in the top 4 on Tuesday, but if they keep winning, I can see them jumping Tennessee. The Vols remaining schedule is extremely mediocre, and they've been locked out of the SEC Championship.
I like their chances of winning out and making the playoff
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 6, 2022 13:30:02 GMT
Win and your in Ohio State, Penn State, ttun Clemson Alabama, UGA, Tenn TCU Win and its looking good Illinois Ole Miss, LSU Okie St USC, UCLA, Oregon Still breathing Syracuse, Wake Forest, UNC Kentucky, South Car LSU is a 2 loss team and if they win out then they will almost be guaranteed a spot. We have are 57% into the season and currently only 15% of the teams have a realistic shot. Unless of course your in the SEC then 50% have a realistic shot thanks to our wonderful committee. If you are P5 team outside of the SEC then 11% of those teams have realistic shot. If you are a G5 Team then your last hope bowed out before the season was half over. This is why the playoff expansion will make College Football so much better. Alabama is done Clemson is done
Oregon's chances to make the playoff shot up yesterday
If Georgia loses the SEC Championship to a 11-2 LSU, do they still make it? They did last year
Tennessee needs help The Ohio State-Michigan loser needs help
Can TCU survive the Big XII?? Baylor and Texas are looming
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 6, 2022 13:10:24 GMT
Semifinals:
Peach Bowl: #2 TCU vs. #3 Georgia Fiesta Bowl: #1 Michigan vs. #4 Oregon
Rest of NY6 Bowls:
Orange Bowl: Clemson vs. Alabama Rose Bowl: Ohio State vs. UCLA Cotton Bowl: Tennessee vs. Coastal Carolina
Sugar Bowl: Texas vs. LSU
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So...where to begin...
I'll start with the Big 10 since its cut and dry. IMO, the Ohio State-Michigan game is a coin flip, with the winner probably inheriting the #1 seed in the playoff, and the loser going to the Rose Bowl. I could see a potential of Ohio State losing this game and still making the playoff, but the Big 10 is a really bad conference this year...Ohio State's biggest win would be Notre Dame or Penn State
The SEC is still complicated.
Alabama is most likely done and out of the picture. I think they win out and head to the Orange Bowl.
I've got LSU upsetting Georgia in the SEC Championship...but, I think Georgia will still get into the playoff, much like they did last year. Georgia may be a lock at this point.
I've got Tennessee winning out, but I think they will end up getting jumped by conference champions.
I've got TCU dropping a game, possibly to Texas, but still winning the Big XII.
I've also got Oregon winning out. The offense with Bo Nix seems to be on fire right now. They are getting more respect each and every week.
Clemson is most likely out of the playoff now. Even winning the ACC and going 12-1, I don't think the committee would push them ahead of a 1-loss Tennessee or Ohio State.
The Michigan/Ohio State loser and Tennessee really need the Big XII to eat itself and for Texas, Baylor, or Kansas State to win the conference. Could happen.
As for the G5 bid, it's possible the American eats itself, and Coastal Carolina slips through.
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 6, 2022 3:54:13 GMT
Phenomenal sports night
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 5, 2022 14:33:13 GMT
The Big 12 then will be a mess with zero identity. Teams stretching from WVU to UCF to BYU and now hoops-only GONZAGA? It will basically be the "leftover conference" of schools that wish they were in another conference but nobody else wanted. very true, and that's what the other sub P3 conferences are turning into...
However, if things play out where the PAC 12 eventually gets ripped apart (Oregon & Washington, plus Stanford and/or Cal to Big 10), I could see the four corners PAC schools going to the Big XII, especially if the money is better.
I think the future of the Big XII is a de facto western conference, with a couple of eastern teams. They could end up being the premier 3rd conference behind the P2, dependent on what eventually happens to the ACC.
UCF, Cincinnati, and West Virginia were all chosen out of desperation to stay afloat...and maybe one day, they join a ravaged ACC along with any ACC leftovers, because the bulk of the Big XII will be western
There's a lot of possibilities and permutations in this, but what's clear is there will be a dominating P2 conference setup, 1-2 mid conferences and some G5 conferences
Gonzaga does have history with BYU, and this move could be in anticipation of Arizona looking at jumping
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 5, 2022 13:14:46 GMT
Ask the Big East how well things went having partial / "non football" members... Usually I would agree with you, but the conference alignment race has been won by the SEC and B1G; its officially a P2 now. So if you are the Big XII, ACC, or PAC 12, you might as well try and maximize your strength and revenue as much as you can.
The Big XII has actually done an incredible job at surviving massive defections: Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Colorado, Missouri, Nebraska
I don't think adding some bball schools would necessarily lead to the massive power division the Big East had, where they had an even split in interest.
If the Big XII did add Gonzaga, I would at least look at adding a Big East school to round out the basketball teams. Creighton fits geographically. Marquette, Depaul, and Butler are within range as well.
Probably wouldn't hurt for the ACC to take a look at adding Villanova either.
The time for having clean-cut all-sports conferences is out the window. It's pure survival now, you have to adapt and evolve
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 2, 2022 23:25:50 GMT
Interesting that the Big XII is talking with Gonzaga
If Gonzaga joined, how hard would it be to add Creighton?
Also, if you really wanted to go crazy with it...
What about also adding Depaul and Marquette?
The Big XII could make major basketball moves if they wanted.
12 in football (for now) 16 in basketball
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PS I'd be trying to pry that Arizona piece away from the PAC
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2022 12:25:11 GMT
My biggest question for Georgia regarding Dawgs-Vols, is can they stop Hendon Hooker and the Tennessee offense?
This Tennessee team reminds me of 2010 Auburn and somewhat of FSU 2013
They are led by the most probable Heisman candidate in Hooker, and they kind of came out of nowhere. The offense has been playing at a high level and no one has been able to stop it
So I like Tennessee to roll into Athens and win between the hedges
But, if Georgia loses this game....look at their next two games:
@ Miss St. @ Kentucky
I think its possible they drop another game, and could be completely out of the National Championship picture before November ends
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2022 12:05:32 GMT
sort of shocked to hear that
Brenton Cox looked like a future NFL guy to me
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2022 12:04:20 GMT
I thought they were stupid to get rid of Gus Malzahn
Auburn is 3-5
Meanwhile, Gus Malzahn has the UCF Golden Knights in the top 25, and former QB Bo Nix has lead Oregon to #8
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2022 12:00:22 GMT
I agree that the better scenario for both conferences would have been the 10 PAC schools sort of merging with the best 6-8 schools from the Big 12 to form a 16-18 team league and solidify itself as the #3 conference. However the Big 12 just announced a six-year extension with ESPN and FOX. The PAC is currently in open market for a new TV deal, rumored to be some combination of ESPN and...Amazon Prime Streaming? The longer the PAC goes without announcing a new TV deal, the more the rumors of the Big Ten taking more schools will run. The Big Ten can basically end the PAC by adding Washington, Oregon, Stanford, maybe Cal to get to 20 teams. That would give them a western division / pod along with USC and UCLA to help with scheduling / travel. That would lead to the Big 12 adding Arizona, ASU, Colorado, and Utah and it would be goodnight PAC. It's a shame but they can thank Larry Scott and his failed PAC 12 Network. What a disaster. exactly...the new Big XII deal puts a lot of pressure on the PAC
It would not surprise me if someone like Arizona went ahead and jumped to the Big XII instead of waiting for implosion, especially if the PAC deal is less
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Post by EvilVodka on Nov 1, 2022 11:54:51 GMT
TCU demoted if there are 3 1 loss SEC teams then no guarantees for the frogs If TCU were to go undefeated, I'd have a hard time not seeing them get in...
I really don't see the committee putting an undefeated P5 team on the outside...ESPN may be clamoring for the SEC, but IMO there would be massive blowback leaving an undefeated P5 school out. The playoff would look like a complete sham. Massey has the Big XII has the top conference
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Post by EvilVodka on Oct 30, 2022 14:03:32 GMT
The end of the season would be exciting for more teams with a 12 team playoff. It’s the regular season that will not mean as much. And will it really provide different outcomes at the end? Doubtful. UGA would still have crushed anyone last year.
Here is how the 2021 playoff would have looked with 12 teams last year. Remember, Georgia lost the SEC Championship last year, and the effect of that would have been visible with a 12 team playoff.
Georgia now has to play Pitt and then Baylor before they get a rematch with Alabama. Georgia has to work their way up instead of a layup against Michigan. The SEC Championship actually matters in a 12 team playoff.
Honestly, I think you'd end up with an Alabama vs. Ohio State National Championship.
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Post by EvilVodka on Oct 30, 2022 13:16:50 GMT
This is why the playoff expansion will make College Football so much better. Maybe... I think, what made college football SO EXCITING was: You KNOW, in September, that a loss probably ends your chance of a National Title... but, other goals were still attainable. The playoff will enhance the conference races. Win your conference and you are in.
Right now, I think the Big XII has the strongest conference, because there are no easy gimmee wins. Will they make the playoff this year? Probably not, and that's a shame.
With a 12 team playoff, Texas would still be alive to make it, but they would absolutely have to win the conference to get in.
Imagine that Texas wins out and gets in a 12 team playoff...and they have to go to Ann Arbor for their first game. You don't think that will be more exciting than a possible Cheeze It Bowl berth? lol
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