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Post by tigercpa on Jun 22, 2017 18:43:08 GMT
From National Review:
The FBI has published a brief report on the shooting in Alexandria. It is devastating to the idea that the gun-control measures presently coveted by the Democratic party would have done something to prevent the attack.
Over the past two decades, Democrats have focused on three major proposals for reform. They are: 1) That all private transfers should be contingent upon a federal background check; 2) That firearms that look a certain way should be classed as “assault weapons” and prohibited from sale; and 3) That civilians should be forbidden from buying magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.
None of these proposals intersect with what happened in Alexandria.
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Post by tigercpa on Jun 23, 2017 10:23:07 GMT
Now for the cities (last 5 years) from Statista:
The correlation between the homicide rate and Democrat control is striking. Probably not causation, but the correlation is strong.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jun 23, 2017 12:32:20 GMT
Now for the cities (last 5 years) from Statista:
The correlation between the homicide rate and Democrat control is striking. Probably not causation, but the correlation is strong.
I think that inner-city poverty and the breakdown in families are a stronger correlation. I doubt that the homicide rates would differ much under local Republican governance - in the short run. However, Democrats are the party of choice for the inner-city poor, for obvious reasons. Over the long term, Republicans could make a huge difference, with school choice, enterprise zones and creating the environment for self-reliance. But, that would be a generational transformation, perhaps multi-generational. It took decades for the plantation mentality to cause the decay in the inner-cities. It would take decades to reverse the damage. However, the inner-city poor are far more receptive to the empty promises of Democrats. I don't see much hope -- at least until the wells run dry, as they have in Illinois. |
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Post by Bevo on Jun 24, 2017 19:16:01 GMT
Now for the cities (last 5 years) from Statista:
The correlation between the homicide rate and Democrat control is striking. Probably not causation, but the correlation is strong.
Maybe we should try a ban on Democrats? |
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Post by tigercpa on Jun 24, 2017 22:43:39 GMT
It's one of the shakiest things they (the media) - they cheerlead the importation of millions of violent illegals, then lump their gun violence in with Whites and Americans. Then it looks like a wild west free-for-all and they can “report” that "gun violence" is spiraling out of control and worse than other "developed nations"...
“In 2015, an Associated Press headline announced: “Gun ownership in U.S. drops to record low.”
Download the NICS background checks and look at the monthly checks since the 90’s. That’s a lot of firearms. Despite this, CNN and NYT reported that gun ownership was at a 40-year low....LOL
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Post by bluehen on Jun 25, 2017 21:01:22 GMT
cpa, you like to always point out that our planet leading gun homicide rate ( among modern nations ) is due to the urban - inner city populations which of course is common knowledge. Should the constitution be re-written with a separate bill of rights for rural whites and urban blacks ? Should the 2A be amended to apply only to certain geographical areas and /or ethnic groups ? Just curious what some of your solutions might be. Also how many of the well known mass slaughter shootings of recent years were perpetrated by inner city folk with hand guns ?
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jun 25, 2017 22:31:11 GMT
Each amendment in the Bill of Rights has detractors. Donald Trump doesn't appear to be a big fan of freedom of the press, but he hasn't proposed amending the First Amendment.
Another option is to accept the Second Amendment for what it is. The ambiguous language issues have been settled by the Supreme Court. Any suggestions on modifying or repealing the Second Amendment are purely academic. In the vernacular, "it ain't gonna happen".
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Post by tigercpa on Jun 26, 2017 12:49:38 GMT
cpa, you like to always point out that our planet leading gun homicide rate ( among modern nations ) is due to the urban - inner city populations which of course is common knowledge. Should the constitution be re-written with a separate bill of rights for rural whites and urban blacks ? Should the 2A be amended to apply only to certain geographical areas and /or ethnic groups ? Just curious what some of your solutions might be. Also how many of the well known mass slaughter shootings of recent years were perpetrated by inner city folk with hand guns ? Let's not conflate the two issues for convenience.
So now it's "modern nations"...what does that mean? The US is not a modern nation, by age, we're are less than 300 years old, a mere tick on a watch compared to some of the older, more established countries.
If it's so common knowledge why is the proposed solution always to get rid of, or heavily regulate, and/or economically burden the guns and ammo of LEGAL gun owners who don't murder people?
The morning the Bernie supporter shot those Congressmen, the other 85 million gun owners did not shoot anyone. Why go after them?
The number of black mass shooters is low, but they do happen. Mass shootings overall are a rare event ( in terms of cause of death).
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 2, 2017 17:48:19 GMT
The leftists running California want background checks every time you buy ammunition.
Heck, the loonier ones want each bullet to have a serial number and be registered.
But hey, anyone can come into this country, no questions asked! We cannot even check if they are gang members or drug dealers or war criminals or terrorists - Oh, no! We don’t have the resources for that and it would be an “infringement.”
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Post by bluehen on Jul 2, 2017 18:01:02 GMT
I've noticed numerous instances lately in which well regulated militiamen have gotten bored with just shooting and training at the well regulated militia shooting ranges and have taken their M16s (AR-15s) to hospitals, night clubs, ball fields, etc for some live human shooting practice. Very admirable.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 2, 2017 18:12:04 GMT
I've noticed numerous instances lately in which well regulated militiamen have gotten bored with just shooting and training at the well regulated militia shooting ranges and have taken their M16s (AR-15s) to hospitals, night clubs, ball fields, etc for some live human shooting practice. Very admirable. And even still, you are 15 times more likely to be killed by stabbing or beaten with a hammer by an assailant, than killed with an AR-15.
FBI data for violent crime revealed that only 248 people were killed by any form of rifle, including the "scary" AR-15 platform.
248 out of 330,000,000, or 7.51515151*e^-7.
237 people were killed by a forced fall homicide.
Over the last 15 years, guns (all types) are not even in the top 10 of cause of death.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 2, 2017 18:12:46 GMT
I've noticed numerous instances lately in which well regulated militiamen have gotten bored with just shooting and training at the well regulated militia shooting ranges and have taken their M16s (AR-15s) to hospitals, night clubs, ball fields, etc for some live human shooting practice. Very admirable. By numerous, do you mean 3?
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Post by bluehen on Jul 3, 2017 13:38:58 GMT
I've noticed numerous instances lately in which well regulated militiamen have gotten bored with just shooting and training at the well regulated militia shooting ranges and have taken their M16s (AR-15s) to hospitals, night clubs, ball fields, etc for some live human shooting practice. Very admirable. And even still, you are 15 times more likely to be killed by stabbing or beaten with a hammer by an assailant, than killed with an AR-15.
FBI data for violent crime revealed that only 248 people were killed by any form of rifle, including the "scary" AR-15 platform.
248 out of 330,000,000, or 7.51515151*e^-7.
237 people were killed by a forced fall homicide.
Over the last 15 years, guns (all types) are not even in the top 10 of cause of death.
Oh Ok...all the families of the people shot to death (daily) will be very happy and relieved to learn this.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 3, 2017 13:55:29 GMT
And even still, you are 15 times more likely to be killed by stabbing or beaten with a hammer by an assailant, than killed with an AR-15.
FBI data for violent crime revealed that only 248 people were killed by any form of rifle, including the "scary" AR-15 platform.
248 out of 330,000,000, or 7.51515151*e^-7.
237 people were killed by a forced fall homicide.
Over the last 15 years, guns (all types) are not even in the top 10 of cause of death.
Oh Ok...all the families of the people shot to death (daily) will be very happy and relieved to learn this.
The NY hospital shooter used a NY-compliant AR-15, which only holds 10 rounds and has no carry handle, pistol grip, foregrip, flash hider or any of those things that seem to "frighten" politicians into making more ridiculous gun control laws.
Basically, it's a .22 rifle.
Even in "mass shootings", a rifle is only used less than 25% of the time, despite media inferences to the opposite. Handguns are still used 75% of the time.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 3, 2017 20:39:44 GMT
I say all sportsmen and hunters that can pass a vigorous background and intelligence test may have a shotgun and a rifle with a 4 round capacity each and qualify to buy their ammo from the regional ATF facility...the only allowable source. Only law officers have hand guns or semi-automatic long guns. Now if all gun owners actually belonged to a legitimate 'well regulated local militia' the restrictions could be relaxed a bit.
So when you coming down I-81, cpa, to buy a bunch of guns from me ?
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