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Post by Bevo on Jul 29, 2017 9:54:15 GMT
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Post by Hero on Jul 29, 2017 11:07:34 GMT
I can't wait.
The BHs of the world should be jumping up and down about this as all their prayers would be answered. All I can say is be careful what you pray for. P5 welfare checks would end.
The football fan would be the big winner. Imagine firsf weekend of September SEC VS BIG10 with a full lineup of conference games head to head. First weekend October BIG12 vs PAC12. First weekend November SEC vs ACC.
The possibilities would be epic for the fans.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 29, 2017 13:42:15 GMT
I might be impressed when Saban only schedules P5 OOC opponents. Alabama has four OOC games on its 2018 schedule. All four are home games. Only one is a quality opponent, unless you consider Mercer to be a serious threat.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 29, 2017 16:33:47 GMT
I might be impressed when Saban only schedules P5 OOC opponents. Alabama has four OOC games on its 2018 schedule. All four are home games. Only one is a quality opponent, unless you consider Mercer to be a serious threat. Sagan will be HAPPY to schedule all P5 opponents when, all of his competitors do.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 29, 2017 17:13:19 GMT
What is stopping him?
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Post by Hero on Jul 30, 2017 10:12:03 GMT
People who want a double standard.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 30, 2017 11:56:01 GMT
People who want a double standard. If Saban has the courage of his convictions, he could lead by example.
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Post by bluehen on Jul 30, 2017 12:59:43 GMT
I'm with Nick but with his power and influence it would be nice to see him lead the way and stop scheduling 1AA home rent-a-wins. Talk is cheap.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 30, 2017 15:24:19 GMT
I'm with Nick but with his power and influence it would be nice to see him lead the way and stop scheduling 1AA home rent-a-wins. Talk is cheap. Saban will NEVER put his own team at a competitive disadvantage, just to "prove a point". His goal is to WIN. So, he will do whatever is in the best interest of his team. That said, he is giving VERY GOOD advice to the league, as a whole, on how to improve their collective lot. When they all agree? He'll be happy to go along... and, I suspect, will do just fine in the new environment.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 30, 2017 15:40:22 GMT
I'm with Nick but with his power and influence it would be nice to see him lead the way and stop scheduling 1AA home rent-a-wins. Talk is cheap. Saban will NEVER put his own team at a competitive disadvantage, just to "prove a point". His goal is to WIN. So, he will do whatever is in the best interest of his team. That said, he is giving VERY GOOD advice to the league, as a whole, on how to improve their collective lot. When they all agree? He'll be happy to go along... and, I suspect, will do just fine in the new environment. What point would he be proving? He would actually be putting his team at a competitive advantage - assuming that his team had the talent. Wins, and even close road losses over quality opponents have higher value than home wins over marshmallows. Road wins over quality opponents are the most valuable. Saban gives the appearance of being risk averse. He is practicing the polar opposite of the his bravado. Three of his OOC opponents are G5 or lower, and he didn't schedule a single OOC road game. I doubt that I would be the only one who would be impressed if he led by example.
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Post by Hero on Jul 31, 2017 12:16:56 GMT
Your willingness to hold a team(or group of teams) to YOUR double standard is the reason there are so few good and new ideas... carry on with the status quo-nothing will change.
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Post by stumpystew on Jul 31, 2017 13:48:36 GMT
Saban can say this because he knows it will never happen, thus gives him a good PR position. And it won't happen because of money, which controls everything. Almost all P5 school want, and have, 7 to 8 home games. They "need" these many for the pay day. If you schedule just P5, the most home games will be 6. P5 schools will want a home & home contract. Athletic Departments "just can't live" on 6 home games. That is where G5 and FCS come in. Don't require home & home.
Also, there are some states (N. Carolina being one) that have forced P5 state schools (in this case UNC & NCSU) to play the other state FBS school (ECU, but not ASU yet). That would be difficult to not do.
But it would give the P5 teams and their pundits a new, or better, reason to exclude the G5 from any playoff. The "They don't play anybody" quote would be reinforced. No loss to a G5 school, no need to put them in the playoff.
But is Saban is a man of his convictions, maybe he should practice what he preaches.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jul 31, 2017 14:20:56 GMT
Your willingness to hold a team(or group of teams) to YOUR double standard is the reason there are so few good and new ideas... carry on with the status quo-nothing will change. You talking about me? If so, what is my double standard? I'm not opposed to any team scheduling it's OOC games any way it chooses. I am saying that if Saban has the strength of his convictions, he can lead by example by scheduling P5 OOC opponents exclusively, and challenging other P5 programs to do the same. No one forced him to schedule Mercer.
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Post by Bevo on Jul 31, 2017 14:29:01 GMT
But is Saban is a man of his convictions, maybe he should practice what he preaches. Why should he put his own team at a competitive disadvantage? Bama doesn't need "rent-a-wins" to be bowl eligible or to pad their wins to make the CFB. However, getting a couple or extra home games helps in the finances... and, having a couple of "weeks off" saves some wear and tear on his star players, and gives him some time to get back-ups some work. These are all valid competitive reasons to NOT go off and apply this model unilaterally. Either they ALL do it, or no one will do it. Either way, Bama will win.
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Post by Hero on Jul 31, 2017 14:29:56 GMT
Your willingness to hold a team(or group of teams) to YOUR double standard is the reason there are so few good and new ideas... carry on with the status quo-nothing will change. You talking about me? If so, what is my double standard? I'm not opposed to any team scheduling it's OOC games any way it chooses. I am saying that if Saban has the strength of his convictions, he can lead by example by scheduling P5 OOC opponents exclusively, and challenging other P5 programs to do the same. No one forced him to schedule Mercer. Right, nothing will change-new ideas safely avoided-go back to sleep.
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