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Post by tigercpa on Aug 17, 2017 11:18:35 GMT
Trump eventually specifically condemned new-Nazis, white separatists and the KKK, after failing to do so initially. Then, he doubled down on his original comments condemning "all"sides. For that, Trump has been universally scorned, by the usual suspects and by friends and supporters. It is the most bone-headed mismanagement of a controversy by a president in my memory. I won't be surprised if tigercpa claims that the rest of the world is wrong and Trump is right. After all, he said that the rest of the world is wrong, including Trump, and that he is right when it comes to the sanctions imposed on Russia for meddling in the U.S. election. Lol. Trump is correct with his comments and assessment on Charlottesville. Both sides committed violence and should be called out for it.
Nonehtless, Charlottesville is the biggest fake news story of the summer, a planned diversion and trap. The Russian narrative has all but collapsed, the FBI is re-opening Hillary issues, re-opening the Lynch / Bill Clinton meeting on the tarmac, which Comey lied about under oath, as we learned over the past couple of days.
HIllary was correct in her statement that if Trump wins the presidency, "...we'll all hang from the lightposts..." Almost everyone was so convinced that Hillary would win, and none of this corruption would come to light. The establishment republicans just didn't want their gravy train to end - lobbyist money, influence, pretending to fight the Dems, the cocktail parties...
Roy Moore will likely win Sessions seat in a landslide in the run-off. Flake is going to get primaried and likely lose, Hopefully Heller in Nevada as well. The GOP establishment / RINOS / nevertrumpers have completely miscalculated on the Trump presidency and they will pay the price.
Trump made the left own Antifa publicly, simply brilliant.
And the CEOs are dropping of the economic council, using "Charlottesville" as a cover. LOL. You gotta have the big picture overview - it's always the economic overlay.
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Post by Hero on Aug 17, 2017 11:50:31 GMT
Trump eventually specifically condemned new-Nazis, white separatists and the KKK, after failing to do so initially. Then, he doubled down on his original comments condemning "all"sides. For that, Trump has been universally scorned, by the usual suspects and by friends and supporters. It is the most bone-headed mismanagement of a controversy by a president in my memory. I won't be surprised if tigercpa claims that the rest of the world is wrong and Trump is right. PC people can't understand Trump. Not surprising.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 17, 2017 12:11:31 GMT
PC people can't understand Trump. Not surprising. CEO's have to respond to public opinion. When 90% of the media are running wall to wall with flat out lies about what Trump said? They have to run for cover. It's a shame that Trump had to disband the advisory group, but it was the right thing to do. Not fair to the guys who were remaining in it. Lol Morning Joe just said that "White supremacist and Nazis are the ONLY people in America still supporting Trump". These guys are making fools of themselves.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 17, 2017 13:37:27 GMT
PC people can't understand Trump. Not surprising. CEO's have to respond to public opinion. When 90% of the media are running wall to wall with flat out lies about what Trump said? They have to run for cover. It's a shame that Trump had to disband the advisory group, but it was the right thing to do. Not fair to the guys who were remaining in it. Lol Morning Joe just said that "White supremacist and Nazis are the ONLY people in America still supporting Trump". These guys are making fools of themselves. Of course. The media instantly and purposefully misquoted what Trump said and ran with it - hence the outrage and frenzy. Fake news.
Apparently, actually watching his remarks on video for 90 seconds is WAYYYY too much to ask for some people.
Here’s what Trump actually said:
“You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people—on both sides—you had people in that group—excuse me. Excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue, and the re-naming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
Amazingly, everyone rushing to denounce Trump for his remarks they didn’t read or hear missed the whole part where Trump said, “the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists…should be condemned totally.”
“You’re changing history. You’re changing culture, and you had people—and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, OK? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.”
The media knew it was a lie, but, they also know that 90% of the ill-informed will believe their lie.
ABC is a true beacon of fake news:
Good for President Trump calling out the Media for refusing to acknowledge the violent leftists that attend these protests. But they’ll pretend they didn’t hear that. All the press heard was “Trump likes Nazis.”
It always helps to read what you’re complaining about in entirety. Something about credibility and integrity and those things few are interested in these days.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 17, 2017 14:43:55 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-voters-charlottesville-virginia-car-attack/Uh OH! CBS got a SURPRISE!!! These women are amazing... I am SHOCKED that this aired on CBS news. Maybe, someone is finally interested in making money? By reporting truth? Hmnn... I don't know. CBS devoted 100% of their evening broadcast to Trump's news conference. This clip was 45 seconds out of 20 minutes on the other side.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 17, 2017 18:50:36 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-voters-charlottesville-virginia-car-attack/Uh OH! CBS got a SURPRISE!!! These women are amazing... I am SHOCKED that this aired on CBS news. Maybe, someone is finally interested in making money? By reporting truth? Hmnn... I don't know. CBS devoted 100% of their evening broadcast to Trump's news conference. This clip was 45 seconds out of 20 minutes on the other side. Both NBC News and the BBC have put out videos offering fact-checks on President Trump’s claims about what took place in Charlottesville. Both agree there were violent anti-fascist protesters who came to the protest looking for a fight.
Maybe the rest of the media will get around to calling them rioters too. I guess "counter-demonstrators" or "counter-protestors" will have to do for now.
Americans don’t realize the extent of the media brainwashing to which they are subjected" - Ron Paul
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Post by bluehen on Aug 17, 2017 22:03:12 GMT
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 17, 2017 22:46:51 GMT
I know that guy!
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Aug 18, 2017 1:38:49 GMT
Trump eventually specifically condemned new-Nazis, white separatists and the KKK, after failing to do so initially. Then, he doubled down on his original comments condemning "all"sides. For that, Trump has been universally scorned, by the usual suspects and by friends and supporters. It is the most bone-headed mismanagement of a controversy by a president in my memory. I won't be surprised if tigercpa claims that the rest of the world is wrong and Trump is right. After all, he said that the rest of the world is wrong, including Trump, and that he is right when it comes to the sanctions imposed on Russia for meddling in the U.S. election. Lol. Trump is correct with his comments and assessment on Charlottesville. Both sides committed violence and should be called out for it.
Nonehtless, Charlottesville is the biggest fake news story of the summer, a planned diversion and trap. The Russian narrative has all but collapsed, the FBI is re-opening Hillary issues, re-opening the Lynch / Bill Clinton meeting on the tarmac, which Comey lied about under oath, as we learned over the past couple of days.
HIllary was correct in her statement that if Trump wins the presidency, "...we'll all hang from the lightposts..." Almost everyone was so convinced that Hillary would win, and none of this corruption would come to light. The establishment republicans just didn't want their gravy train to end - lobbyist money, influence, pretending to fight the Dems, the cocktail parties...
Roy Moore will likely win Sessions seat in a landslide in the run-off. Flake is going to get primaried and likely lose, Hopefully Heller in Nevada as well. The GOP establishment / RINOS / nevertrumpers have completely miscalculated on the Trump presidency and they will pay the price.
Trump made the left own Antifa publicly, simply brilliant.
And the CEOs are dropping of the economic council, using "Charlottesville" as a cover. LOL. You gotta have the big picture overview - it's always the economic overlay.
Lol. What Trump, and you, fail to understand is that only one side was organized to spew hatred toward Jews and people of color. The other side was organized to oppose those who spew hatred toward Jews and people of color. That they did so with violence is unacceptable, but their violence pales in significance in public perception to the bigotry they were fighting. By initially failing to recognize this critical distinction, Trump was universally condemned. Following withering criticism, Trump got it exactly right when he read prepared remarks from a teleprompter. Then, just as the bleeding was being controlled, he doubled down on his original remarks. Tone deaf to the extreme. I believe that the damage is permanent. By not steadfastly condemning the neo-Nazis, KKK and white supremacists, Trump is effectively excusing the inexcusable, of being their protector and of being irreparably branded a racist. He reminded us of how he failed repeatedly to disavow David Duke during the campaign. If Charlottesville was a planned diversion and trap (as usual, you failed to present any evidence), then it was planned by the neo-Nazis, KKK and the white supremacists who are avowed Trump supporters. That doesn't wash. Roy Moore, who Trump opposes, is going to win Sessions' seat? I hope so. The left should own the Antifa, just as Trump now owns the neo-Nazis, KKK and the white supremacists. I can't go along with the tactics of the Antifa, but I am staunchly anti-fascist. I am also staunchly anti neo-Nazis, anti KKK and anti white supremacists. What about you? Are you pro or anti fascist? Are you pro or anti KKK? Are you pro or anti neo-Nazis? Are you pro or anti white supremacists?
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Aug 18, 2017 1:40:03 GMT
PC people can't understand Trump. Not surprising. CEO's have to respond to public opinion. When 90% of the media are running wall to wall with flat out lies about what Trump said? They have to run for cover. It's a shame that Trump had to disband the advisory group, but it was the right thing to do. Not fair to the guys who were remaining in it. Lol Morning Joe just said that "White supremacist and Nazis are the ONLY people in America still supporting Trump". These guys are making fools of themselves. The CEOs were leading public opinion!
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Aug 18, 2017 1:48:21 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-voters-charlottesville-virginia-car-attack/Uh OH! CBS got a SURPRISE!!! These women are amazing... I am SHOCKED that this aired on CBS news. Maybe, someone is finally interested in making money? By reporting truth? Hmnn... I don't know. CBS devoted 100% of their evening broadcast to Trump's news conference. This clip was 45 seconds out of 20 minutes on the other side. Both NBC News and the BBC have put out videos offering fact-checks on President Trump’s claims about what took place in Charlottesville. Both agree there were violent anti-fascist protesters who came to the protest looking for a fight.
Maybe the rest of the media will get around to calling them rioters too. I guess "counter-demonstrators" or "counter-protestors" will have to do for now.
Americans don’t realize the extent of the media brainwashing to which they are subjected" - Ron Paul
Of course there were violent anti-fascists who came to the protest looking for a fight. That should and must be condemned. But, in proper perspective. Their cause, on face value, is just. Their tactics are not. I hope, hope, hope that you identity yourself as an anti-fascist. They came to fight self-avowed Trump supporters who are neo-Nazis, KKK and white supremacists. Trump supporters who spew hatred toward Jews and blacks.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 18, 2017 11:31:03 GMT
Both NBC News and the BBC have put out videos offering fact-checks on President Trump’s claims about what took place in Charlottesville. Both agree there were violent anti-fascist protesters who came to the protest looking for a fight.
Maybe the rest of the media will get around to calling them rioters too. I guess "counter-demonstrators" or "counter-protestors" will have to do for now.
Americans don’t realize the extent of the media brainwashing to which they are subjected" - Ron Paul
Of course there were violent anti-fascists who came to the protest looking for a fight. That should and must be condemned. But, in proper perspective. Their cause, on face value, is just. Their tactics are not. I hope, hope, hope that you identity yourself as an anti-fascist. They came to fight self-avowed Trump supporters who are neo-Nazis, KKK and white supremacists. Trump supporters who spew hatred toward Jews and blacks. Boy, you have taken the media portrayal of the current Antifa as boy scouts.
Their cause is not just - they ARE the fascists. They seek destruction, disorder and and chaos in society. Nothing more.
Antifa, also known as Black Bloc.
Funny thing is, about half of both sides are undercover feds, keeping an eye on both hate groups.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 18, 2017 11:37:17 GMT
CEO's have to respond to public opinion. When 90% of the media are running wall to wall with flat out lies about what Trump said? They have to run for cover. It's a shame that Trump had to disband the advisory group, but it was the right thing to do. Not fair to the guys who were remaining in it. Lol Morning Joe just said that "White supremacist and Nazis are the ONLY people in America still supporting Trump". These guys are making fools of themselves. The CEOs were leading public opinion! They weren;t leading, they were all knee-jerk reactionaries, who saw a chance to get out of the council because Trump was going to negotiate hard on China, where much of their economics are based and dependent.
They initially thought they had convinced Trump to leave china as status quo, but he wouldn't - this will upset the MNC paradigm significantly, but be better for all Americans.
761 Under Armour products are made in China and more across Asia.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 18, 2017 14:20:15 GMT
another funny, the same people who were screaming for Trump to specifically call out Nazis, are NOT screaming for Trump to call out radical Islam for Barcelona. "Can't condemn all of Islam for a radical few"...
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Post by Bevo on Aug 18, 2017 15:03:52 GMT
ANTIFA ... Their cause is not just - they ARE the fascists. You are correct. The MOST dangerous group of people in Charlottesville were not the idiot KKK and Nazi types. Their ideas are extreme and are easily defeated by reason. The dangerous group was the one who decided that THEY would be the arbiters of what ideas people are allowed to express. And, if your ideas don't align with theirs? They will stop you with clubs and pepper spray. THAT, is un-American and should be condemned just as loudly as the warped ideas of the KKK.
Bad ideas should be defeated with BETTER ideas, not with clubs.
BLM and Antifa have crossed a line. They have decided to use violence, wherever they see fit, to oppose their ideological opponents. That has to be stopped, ASAP.
The fact that they used this violence against a hateful group doesn't justify it in the slightest. There were no KKK types at Berkeley. The more they get away with this tactic, the more often they will use it. Next time, it might be against a group simply opposing the removal of a George Washington monument.
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