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Post by aufan on Feb 28, 2023 19:08:21 GMT
You will soon be given a new list of things to believe. They will be reinforced on a daily basis. It will be made perfectly clear that those who believe the new list are good and all others are bad. You will find comfort and will forget that everything else you were told was BS. youtu.be/OwRxKVIVcBMIt's a good time to know and have a personal relationship with Jesus. Does this include the ‘Christians’ who couldn’t be bothered to do something as simple as wear a mask to love thy neighbor?
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Post by aufan on Feb 28, 2023 19:32:14 GMT
Who said you won't get COVID if you get the vaccine? What is a conspiracy about saying the election was the safest? Maybe you got a paper cut on your mail in ballot? Who is saying you are protected from COVID when you sit down at a restaurant? Can't wait for more wisdom from Catturd! You will soon be given a new list of things to believe. They will be reinforced on a daily basis. It will be made perfectly clear that those who believe the new list are good and all others are bad. You will find comfort and will forget that everything else you were told was BS. youtu.be/OwRxKVIVcBMSounds like going to Church…
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Post by aufan on Feb 28, 2023 19:33:46 GMT
Who said you won't get COVID if you get the vaccine? Um.... the President did. July 2021. Joe Biden 'But, again, one last thing. We don't talk enough to you about this, I don't think. One last thing that's really important is, we're not in the position where we think that any virus, including the Delta virus, which is much more transmissible and more deadly in terms of unvaccinated people, the -- the various shots that people are getting now cover that. You're OK. You're not going to -- you're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations." Thanks. Didn’t realize he said that and I don’t agree with him saying it like that.
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Post by aufan on Mar 2, 2023 2:05:25 GMT
Who said you won't get COVID if you get the vaccine? What is a conspiracy about saying the election was the safest? Maybe you got a paper cut on your mail in ballot? Who is saying you are protected from COVID when you sit down at a restaurant? Can't wait for more wisdom from Catturd! You will soon be given a new list of things to believe. They will be reinforced on a daily basis. It will be made perfectly clear that those who believe the new list are good and all others are bad. You will find comfort and will forget that everything else you were told was BS. youtu.be/OwRxKVIVcBM
I know you don't do anything but parrot talking points. You hear a legit complaint about Fox News and you make sure to not add any relevant thoughts of your own, just say "MSNBC!"
That video just goes to show the idiocy you promote. "In the 80's it was acid rain".
DUH! And there were deniers of acid rain. It was a problem, and we regulated emissions to solve the problem.
And brainwashed people like you ignore the facts, and just say it was politics?
"In the 90's it was the ozone layer"
DUH! And there were deniers. It was a problem, and we regulated emissions to solve the problem.
And brainwashed people like you ignore the facts, and just say it was politics.
Educated people would be embarrassed to share that video. Yet you proudly display your brainwashing as a badge of honor.
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Post by bluehen on Mar 2, 2023 3:43:08 GMT
Powerful points, Aufan. My 2 cents .....and this is in no way directed at any of the posters around here which are very intelligent guys.
In general, again, in GENERAL, true or false : Intelligent people are significantly more difficult to lie to than dumb people.
True or false : Poorly educated people are more easily lied to than higher educated people ( in general ). Ask yourselves these questions and answer them honestly....don't have to post anything.
The answers are the basic premises for the blatant fraud of prime time FNC ( and other such )and the cult like spread of trumpism, in general. Trump has stated that in his rallies..." I love the poorly educated ".....and, of course " I can go out in the street and shoot someone in the head and they'll still love me " ( and worship me and vote for me ). Dumbth manipulation and control....plain and simple.
I'm not a bleeding liberal nor an extreme right wing wack-a- doodle but that's how I see the horrible divide among Americans these days and I hate it. IMO, for this system to work correctly a complete idiot's vote should never count exactly the same as a highly aware, educated and very cerebral citizen's vote. Voting and determining the future of our nation should be more of an earned and exclusive privilege and think of the vastly improved level of candidates and public servants that would foster !
Hope some of you fellas don't hate me for this opinion.
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Post by aufan on Mar 2, 2023 14:26:29 GMT
Don't hate you for the opinion, but I strongly disagree. Everyone can be influenced, even when they think they aren't. For example, most individuals will say that commercials don't really affect them, they buy what they like. Yet advertisement is proven to work and billions are spent every year.
People of all education levels, intelligence, etc. can be influenced, and I'd argue there are some techniques that work BETTER on people who are smart or educated, and sometimes they are easier to convince. The liberal/democrat base is easily influenced by the authority argument, someone smart/educated/knowledgeable said so, therefore it is true. Some of it is pointed out in this thread (Biden saying if you won't get the vaccine, you won't get COVID).
And the opposite is true, smart and educated people realize this authority argument, and wholesale reject it. For example Bevo is clearly smart and educated, but he's been convinced that the designated authority is wrong. He goes so far to argue against mathematical equations, like using the natural log to calculate exponential growth of COVID, questioning why a scientific paper would use this and believing it is to manipulate the numbers. Laughable without context, but with context it goes to show that the educated and intelligent can be easily influenced too.
Anyways, I like the idea that voting is a human right. To take this away arbitrarily on the grounds of education or intelligence means either you don't think voting is a human right, or that those less educated or intelligent are not human. I reject both premises, so I don't agree. Stupid or uneducated people should vote, and deserve to have their voices heard, even if you disagree with them or think they are stupid.
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Post by bluehen on Mar 2, 2023 16:54:03 GMT
I see your good points, Aufan, although you are citing specific examples while I tried to make it clear that my points were "IN GENERAL". There is a difference. In general ,and on average ,do you think more cerebral, more aware and educated individuals are less likely to be fooled by fraud ?
For example ....... in general would a higher % of HS dropouts "buy" that the 2020 election was rigged OR would a higher % of advanced degree holders "buy" that the election rigged ?
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Post by Bevo on Mar 2, 2023 20:31:40 GMT
he's been convinced that the designated authority is wrong. He goes so far to argue against mathematical equations, like using the natural log to calculate exponential growth of COVID, questioning why a scientific paper would use this and believing it is to manipulate the numbers. Laughable without context, but with context it goes to show that the educated and intelligent can be easily influenced too. The "Authority" has been proven to have been wrong on MANY aspects of the Covid pandemic. I have never claimed or believed they are always wrong. I just don't presume they are correct when there is clear evidence to the contrary all around. I don't think I've ever said it was incorrect to express exponential growth using logarithmic expressions. I just couldn't find a way to make the math used in one study match any kind of real, observed data. I think the jury has come back on mask wearing: Mask mandates had little to no affect on covid transmission rates. "If you spend 15 minutes in close contact with a person shedding virus, you will likely be infected, whether or not either of you is wearing a mask". That's what the CDC is saying now. If that's true, why would wearing a mask, walking around with mostly non-infected people make any difference? It doesn't.... it never did. And, guys like Fauci KNEW it, way back in 2020.
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Post by Bevo on Mar 2, 2023 20:37:02 GMT
You will soon be given a new list of things to believe. They will be reinforced on a daily basis. It will be made perfectly clear that those who believe the new list are good and all others are bad. You will find comfort and will forget that everything else you were told was BS. youtu.be/OwRxKVIVcBM
I know you don't do anything but parrot talking points. You hear a legit complaint about Fox News and you make sure to not add any relevant thoughts of your own, just say "MSNBC!"
That video just goes to show the idiocy you promote. "In the 80's it was acid rain".
DUH! And there were deniers of acid rain. It was a problem, and we regulated emissions to solve the problem.
And brainwashed people like you ignore the facts, and just say it was politics?
"In the 90's it was the ozone layer"
DUH! And there were deniers. It was a problem, and we regulated emissions to solve the problem.
And brainwashed people like you ignore the facts, and just say it was politics.
Educated people would be embarrassed to share that video. Yet you proudly display your brainwashing as a badge of honor.
"Acid Rain" was a very localized problem... one easily solved with application of scrubber systems to removed SO2 and NOx. It was never an existential threat. The "Ozone Hole" issue is one that is still not fully understood. Increases in the hole size slowed, unexplainably, years BEFORE any measurable impacts of the most beloved "Montreal Treaty". And now, 25 years after virtually full elimination of CFCs, the ozone hole is STILL with us and most of the models used to predict the impacts are not fitting well at all. That one might be existential.... but, we still don't fully understand it.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Mar 2, 2023 22:31:22 GMT
That's the problem, there was no "science"...only propaganda. The sheep fell for it. The "conspiracy theorists" were correct all along. About the election and COVID. "you won;t get COVID if you get the vaccine" "This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated" "this was the safest presidential election ever" My favorite covid science was, you had to wear a mask when entering a restaurant, but, when seated, you were protected from covid and could take your mask off. Absolute 🤡 Who said you won't get COVID if you get the vaccine? What is a conspiracy about saying the election was the safest? Maybe you got a paper cut on your mail in ballot? Who is saying you are protected from COVID when you sit down at a restaurant? Can't wait for more wisdom from Catturd! Joe Biden told that you won't get Covid if you get the vaccine. Joe Biden told us that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Joe Biden told us he never ever talked business with his son. Joe Biden told us this was the safest election in history. By the way if you make the statement there was fraud in the 2020 election you would be telling the fact. If you said there was no fraud in the election then that is a clear lie. So why is no one talking about why there is a 2000% increase in under the age of 39 having heart attacks, heart problems? Why would Damar Hamlin not speculate why he collapse considered he is a state of the art athlete? Why is no one talking about the possibilities of the vaccine causing these problems? I did a lot a research and chose not to take the sheep approach when making my decision.
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Post by aufan on Mar 2, 2023 23:47:26 GMT
he's been convinced that the designated authority is wrong. He goes so far to argue against mathematical equations, like using the natural log to calculate exponential growth of COVID, questioning why a scientific paper would use this and believing it is to manipulate the numbers. Laughable without context, but with context it goes to show that the educated and intelligent can be easily influenced too. The "Authority" has been proven to have been wrong on MANY aspects of the Covid pandemic. I have never claimed or believed they are always wrong. I just don't presume they are correct when there is clear evidence to the contrary all around. I don't think I've ever said it was incorrect to express exponential growth using logarithmic expressions. I just couldn't find a way to make the math used in one study match any kind of real, observed data. I think the jury has come back on mask wearing: Mask mandates had little to no affect on covid transmission rates. "If you spend 15 minutes in close contact with a person shedding virus, you will likely be infected, whether or not either of you is wearing a mask". That's what the CDC is saying now. If that's true, why would wearing a mask, walking around with mostly non-infected people make any difference? It doesn't.... it never did. And, guys like Fauci KNEW it, way back in 2020.
Are you using this quote to infer that masks do nothing? That the authority has been proven wrong once again?
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Post by aufan on Mar 2, 2023 23:56:40 GMT
Who said you won't get COVID if you get the vaccine? What is a conspiracy about saying the election was the safest? Maybe you got a paper cut on your mail in ballot? Who is saying you are protected from COVID when you sit down at a restaurant? Can't wait for more wisdom from Catturd! Joe Biden told that you won't get Covid if you get the vaccine. Joe Biden told us that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Joe Biden told us he never ever talked business with his son. Joe Biden told us this was the safest election in history. By the way if you make the statement there was fraud in the 2020 election you would be telling the fact. If you said there was no fraud in the election then that is a clear lie. So why is no one talking about why there is a 2000% increase in under the age of 39 having heart attacks, heart problems? Why would Damar Hamlin not speculate why he collapse considered he is a state of the art athlete? Why is no one talking about the possibilities of the vaccine causing these problems? I did a lot a research and chose not to take the sheep approach when making my decision.
I'd be interested to see those sources about 2000% increase in heart attacks.
I also find it interesting that your default position is that it could be due to the vaccine.
Could it also be possible that it is due to the virus?
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Post by ajbuckeye on Mar 3, 2023 0:32:21 GMT
Joe Biden told that you won't get Covid if you get the vaccine. Joe Biden told us that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Joe Biden told us he never ever talked business with his son. Joe Biden told us this was the safest election in history. By the way if you make the statement there was fraud in the 2020 election you would be telling the fact. If you said there was no fraud in the election then that is a clear lie. So why is no one talking about why there is a 2000% increase in under the age of 39 having heart attacks, heart problems? Why would Damar Hamlin not speculate why he collapse considered he is a state of the art athlete? Why is no one talking about the possibilities of the vaccine causing these problems? I did a lot a research and chose not to take the sheep approach when making my decision.
I'd be interested to see those sources about 2000% increase in heart attacks.
I also find it interesting that your default position is that it could be due to the vaccine.
Could it also be possible that it is due to the virus?
It's not my default position but just a simple question. Could be vaccine or could be the virus. Don't you want to know or at least have people looking into it?
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Post by aufan on Mar 3, 2023 1:06:24 GMT
I'd be interested to see those sources about 2000% increase in heart attacks.
I also find it interesting that your default position is that it could be due to the vaccine.
Could it also be possible that it is due to the virus?
It's not my default position but just a simple question. Could be vaccine or could be the virus. Don't you want to know or at least have people looking into it? Yes, if heart attacks have increased 2000%, people should be looking into it.
What exactly is the "sheep" approach you have avoided?
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Post by Hero on Mar 3, 2023 5:41:50 GMT
You will soon be given a new list of things to believe. They will be reinforced on a daily basis. It will be made perfectly clear that those who believe the new list are good and all others are bad. You will find comfort and will forget that everything else you were told was BS. youtu.be/OwRxKVIVcBM
I know you don't do anything but parrot talking points. You hear a legit complaint about Fox News and you make sure to not add any relevant thoughts of your own, just say "MSNBC!"
That video just goes to show the idiocy you promote. "In the 80's it was acid rain".
DUH! And there were deniers of acid rain. It was a problem, and we regulated emissions to solve the problem.
And brainwashed people like you ignore the facts, and just say it was politics?
"In the 90's it was the ozone layer"
DUH! And there were deniers. It was a problem, and we regulated emissions to solve the problem.
And brainwashed people like you ignore the facts, and just say it was politics.
Educated people would be embarrassed to share that video. Yet you proudly display your brainwashing as a badge of honor.
Don't get nervous, you will soon have your next thing to worry about.
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