|
|
Post by Bevo on Jan 2, 2017 20:46:28 GMT
Well, the report did admit, at the very beginning, that....sometimes, accomplished hackers are able to leave "fake" tracers that point investigators to the wrong source. I thought that was sme interesting language, The link to the JAR is above. Why are you grasping at straws? The election is over. Trump won. That won't change. You can stop defending the Kremlin now. I printed, and read the entire 13-page report. Did you? I'm guessing... not. Why are you and the Democrats trying so hard to provoke a conflict with Russia? |
|
|
|
Post by tigercpa on Jan 2, 2017 20:51:14 GMT
They even said nothing in their "report" should be seen as credible, because they can't prove anything Well, the report did admit, at the very beginning, that....sometimes, accomplished hackers are able to leave "fake" tracers that point investigators to the wrong source. I thought that was some interesting language, The most interesting language was:
Disclaimer: This report is provided “as is” for informational purposes only. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information contained within.
No need to read any further.
|
|
|
|
Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 2, 2017 21:33:49 GMT
The link to the JAR is above. Why are you grasping at straws? The election is over. Trump won. That won't change. You can stop defending the Kremlin now. I printed, and read the entire 13-page report. Did you? I'm guessing... not. Why are you and the Democrats trying so hard to provoke a conflict with Russia? Why am I and Democrats and a growing number of Republican leaders trying so hard to "provoke a conflict " with Russia? I won't dispute that Democrat leaders are standing up to Russia as a matter of political convenience. Republicans stand, or at least used to stand, before Trump, on principle. Would you advise that the U.S. stand idly by each time Russia overtly attempts to subvert a western democracy, as it did with the U.S. election, or invades a nation or region friendly to the U.S. that is striving to become a democracy? Georgia? Crimea? Eastern Ukraine? Trump and Obama appear to have one thing in common: the projection of American weakness. Are you really, really on board with that? |
|
|
|
Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 2, 2017 21:35:51 GMT
BTW -- you have no reason to doubt that I have read the JAR. I read it days ago, and have referred back to it several times. Why would you accuse me of not having read it?
|
|
|
|
Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 2, 2017 21:40:03 GMT
Well, the report did admit, at the very beginning, that....sometimes, accomplished hackers are able to leave "fake" tracers that point investigators to the wrong source. I thought that was some interesting language, The most interesting language was:
Disclaimer: This report is provided “as is” for informational purposes only. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information contained within.
No need to read any further.
Is that the first time in your life that you have seen a standard boiler plate disclaimer? Grasping at straws... |
|
|
|
Post by Bevo on Jan 2, 2017 22:01:25 GMT
BTW -- you have no reason to doubt that I have read the JAR. I read it days ago, and have referred back to it several times. Why would you accuse me of not having read it? Because you clearly have not paid attention to the words in it... Or, you would not be using words like "FACT. |
|
|
|
Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 2, 2017 23:51:30 GMT
Perhaps you don't want the facts to be facts.
|
|
|
|
Post by Bevo on Jan 2, 2017 23:52:41 GMT
Perhaps you don't want the facts to be facts. I acknowledge "Facts", when they ARE "Facts". Not before |
|
|
|
Post by Hero on Jan 3, 2017 0:16:33 GMT
CNN has proof:
Good enough for Herd. |
|
|
|
Post by Bevo on Jan 3, 2017 1:26:41 GMT
CNN has proof:
Good enough for Herd. No doubt... |
|
|
|
Post by Hero on Jan 3, 2017 1:35:39 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by tigercpa on Jan 3, 2017 16:06:12 GMT
Assange again asserts:
“The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything. Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source.”
That particular interview took place when Trump has losing badly in the polls, and as such few people paid attention: after all, what difference did it make who had leaked the Podesta emails: Hillary Clinton was assured to win (with a 90%+ probability according to the NYT and other "non-fake news" outlets).
Needless to say, the issue of Russian hacking has since come back with a vengeance, and culminated last week with Obama expelling 35 Russian diplomats in the greatest diplomatic escalation between the US and Russia in decades; an action which took place based on a flimsy 13-page DHS/FBI report which demonstrated that anyone could have hacked the DNC emails if only they spent a few dollars to purchase a piece of Ukranian PHP malware
|
|
|
|
Post by tigercpa on Jan 3, 2017 18:12:19 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 3, 2017 22:41:22 GMT
Assange again asserts: 1. “The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything. Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source.” 2. That particular interview took place when Trump has losing badly in the polls, and as such few people paid attention: after all, what difference did it make who had leaked the Podesta emails: Hillary Clinton was assured to win (with a 90%+ probability according to the NYT and other "non-fake news" outlets). 3. Needless to say, the issue of Russian hacking has since come back with a vengeance, and culminated last week with Obama expelling 35 Russian diplomats in the greatest diplomatic escalation between the US and Russia in decades; an action which took place based on a flimsy 13-page DHS/FBI report which demonstrated that anyone could have hacked the DNC emails if only they spent a few dollars to purchase a piece of Ukranian PHP malware 1. Who is "our publications"? Source? In any event, Russia was not and never possibly could have been the source of the leaks. Not the Russian government and not any State actor. Life doesn't work that way. The leaks were at least one step removed, and probably several steps removed, from the Russian government. That is very different from the fact that the Russian government directed the hackings by Russian military intelligence and Russian companies that resulted in the stealing the information and documents that were leaked, and Russia's interfering in the U.S. election. 2. What interview? And, who really cares what Hillary said? 3. "Greatest diplomatic escalation between the U.S. and Russia in decades?" Good grief. Greater than Russia's large-scale land, sea an air invasion of Georgia in 2008, following which Russian troops continue to illegally occupy the Abkhazia and South Ossetia regions of Georgia? Greater than Russia's 2014 invasion and subsequent illegal annexation of Crimea? Utter nonsense. The most recent "diplomatic escalation between the U.S. and Russia was caused by the Russian government directing the hackings. The "punitive" actions Obama took were woefully inadequate. |
|
|
|
Post by kocurt on Jan 4, 2017 0:54:34 GMT
Nobody on this all right site has gotten any wiser. You deserve what's coming
|
|
