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Post by tigercpa on Jan 4, 2017 19:06:25 GMT
The media and so called "intelligence officials" have said that the Russians hacked both the DNC and the RNC but only released info on DNC. They also said the hacking skills required were so sophisticated that only the Russians could have possibly done it.
Republicans said the RNC was never hacked and that they can prove it.
That exposes one lie.
Podesta said he lost his phone about the time of the so called "hacking". Podesta also set his password as password.
This exposes another lie.
And Assange has repeatedly said from the beginning that the Russians were not involved.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 4, 2017 20:28:57 GMT
They don’t care what Assange says. The argument is now that Russian agents gave the material to the people that gave it to Assange. So now the DNC had employees working as Russian moles. Oh what a tangled web we weave… The spin gets better and better. Do you really, really believe that the Russian government is so stupid that it would actually hand the stolen information and documents directly to Assange? Lol! |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 4, 2017 20:38:38 GMT
tigercpa:
"And Assange has repeatedly said from the beginning that the Russians were not involved."
Actually: that the Russian government, or any State actor, was not involved in supplying the information and documents directly to Wikileaks.
Of course not. That is a classic no brainer.
We can also safely exclude Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.
When you regain your courage, how about tacking the 4 questions I asked you?
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 4, 2017 21:09:51 GMT
Questions for tigercpa (Hero and Bevo are welcome to assist): 1. How would the Intelligence Committee press charges before an international tribunal? 2. Which international tribunal? Den Haag? The International Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia? Nuremberg? 3. What should Trump do regarding the impending expiration of the sanctions on Russia for invading and illegally annexing Crimea? Allow the sanctions to expire? Lead the effort to renew the sanctions? Congratulate Putin for a job well done? 4. What options should Trump consider to prevent North Korea from completing the development of a nuclear-tipped ICBM capable of striking the U.S. mainland?
1. Exactly.
2. The IMCYTR
3. He should do whatever gives him the most leverage.
4. Economic, that's the key. Rather than go to war or engage the U.S. military in strikes against Korean military facilities, Donald Trump identifies economic leverage as the solution.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 4, 2017 22:35:25 GMT
Questions for tigercpa (Hero and Bevo are welcome to assist): 1. Q. How would the Intelligence Committee press charges before an international tribunal? 1. A. Exactly. So, as expected, you are totally clueless. The correct answer is, no congressional committee has the authority to press charges for anything before any international tribunal.
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 4, 2017 22:46:09 GMT
Of course the Chinese have the leverage against North Korea. That's why I said economic leverage, I didn't mean the US directly.
China holds immense leverage over North Korea; leverage of a similar comparative scope the U.S. holds over Puerto Rico. North Korea is financially dependent on China for its very survival. If China pulls back money from North Korea, N-Korea collapses upon itself.
But the Chinese need NK as a buffer.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 5, 2017 1:36:05 GMT
Of course the Chinese have the leverage against North Korea. That's why I said economic leverage, I didn't mean the US directly. China holds immense leverage over North Korea; leverage of a similar comparative scope the U.S. holds over Puerto Rico. North Korea is financially dependent on China for its very survival. If China pulls back money from North Korea, N-Korea collapses upon itself. But the Chinese need NK as a buffer. Lol. You waited until I brought up the Chinese before you thought of it! The Chinese aren't going to pay any attention to Trump unless and until he gives them a compelling reason to do so. Tell me what you think motivates the Chinese more than the threat of a nuclear-capable South Korea and Japan. Simultaneously, Trump could dispatch a naval battle or strike group into and amongst the islands in the South China Sea that China is militarizing and attempting to annex, for the purpose of challenging China in waters where it illegally claims territorial jurisdiction. |
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 5, 2017 16:09:21 GMT
Overnight, the Russian hacking narrative changed again, after U.S. intelligence agencies told Reuters they obtained what they considered to be "conclusive evidence" after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks. However, in the latest switch of the narrative, this time the allegation is that Russia provided the hacked data through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 5, 2017 17:16:20 GMT
Overnight, the Russian hacking narrative changed again, after U.S. intelligence agencies told Reuters they obtained what they considered to be "conclusive evidence" after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks. However, in the latest switch of the narrative, this time the allegation is that Russia provided the hacked data through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday. You are now resigned to grasping at straws. Good grief. There is zero chance that the Russian government would ever provide hacked (stolen) materials to Wikileaks. Of course they went through a third party -- most likely several times removed from the Kremlin. |
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 5, 2017 20:16:38 GMT
Overnight, the Russian hacking narrative changed again, after U.S. intelligence agencies told Reuters they obtained what they considered to be "conclusive evidence" after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks. However, in the latest switch of the narrative, this time the allegation is that Russia provided the hacked data through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday. You are now resigned to grasping at straws. Good grief. There is zero chance that the Russian government would ever provide hacked (stolen) materials to Wikileaks. Of course they went through a third party -- most likely several times removed from the Kremlin. I'm not. The media and intel are.
They keep changing the narrative depending on which way the wind blows.
WikiLeaks responded:
Anon US officials admit that WikiLeaks "source" is not Russia. Now shifts goal posts to source's source.
In keeping with the theme of providing no proof to the general public, the officials declined to describe the intelligence obtained about the involvement of a third-party in passing on leaked material to WikiLeaks, saying they did not want to reveal how the U.S. government had obtained the information. So just trust them, please.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 5, 2017 22:00:34 GMT
I do trust our intelligence services.
I certainly don't want classified information that would compromise our sources and methods to be released, including cooperative efforts with other nations. I can live without the level of "proof" that troubles you so deeply.
Trump will be shown and told everything he wants to know about the "proof" tomorrow. He will also be informed as to the conclusions reached as to the Russian government's motives. Not only that, you will also be informed next week.
Republicans are increasingly lining up against you, Hero and Bevo, and are accepting the concensus conclusion of the FBI, 17 intelligence agencies, the DNI and DHS that the Russian government directed the computer hackings.
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Post by Hero on Jan 6, 2017 15:24:23 GMT
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Jan 6, 2017 15:48:37 GMT
Natural News: "The world's top news source on natural health"? No thanks -- I don't trust far left, vegetarian, environmental wacko web sites. |
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Post by tigercpa on Jan 6, 2017 17:21:04 GMT
Today's media meme:
Unemployment rose to 4.7% - "Trump is already hurting America"
"We are entering a period of hopelessness!"
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Post by Hero on Jan 6, 2017 17:35:22 GMT
Natural News: "The world's top news source on natural health"? No thanks -- I don't trust far left, vegetarian, environmental wacko web sites.   |
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