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Post by tigercpa on Nov 13, 2019 17:05:26 GMT
My biggest problem with the CFB Rankings is that we go from:
2018: Ohio State got beat by Purdue, bad loss. We can’t put them in.
2019: Georgia has bad loss to South Carolina. No worries.
One year bad losses matter, next year they don’t?
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Post by Bevo on Nov 13, 2019 17:18:34 GMT
My biggest problem with the CFB Rankings is that we go from: 2018: Ohio State got beat by Purdue, bad loss. We can’t put them in. 2019: Georgia has bad loss to South Carolina. No worries. One year bad losses matter, next year they don’t? Bad losses can get overlooked, when combined with a few good wins.
I seem to recall Clemson losing bad game to Pittsburg, but still getting an invite.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Nov 13, 2019 17:27:33 GMT
My biggest problem with the CFB Rankings is that we go from: 2018: Ohio State got beat by Purdue, bad loss. We can’t put them in. 2019: Georgia has bad loss to South Carolina. No worries. One year bad losses matter, next year they don’t? Bad losses can get overlooked, when combined with a few good wins.
I seem to recall Clemson losing bad game to Pittsburg, but still getting an invite.
Ohio State by far had much better wins than Oklahoma in 2018. Clearly this year it is 100% based on the so called 'eye test' as there is no logical reason for #4 UGA to be ahead of #9 PSU. Maybe the eyes should focus a bit more on games that are not in the Southeast.
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Post by Bevo on Nov 13, 2019 17:31:36 GMT
Bad losses can get overlooked, when combined with a few good wins.
I seem to recall Clemson losing bad game to Pittsburg, but still getting an invite.
Ohio State by far had much better wins than Oklahoma in 2018. Clearly this year it is 100% based on the so called 'eye test' as there is no logical reason for #4 UGA to be ahead of #9 PSU. Maybe the eyes should focus a bit more on games that are not in the Southeast. I don't really get the love for Georgia either.. I guess they're getting credit for the wins over Notre Dame and Florida. But, they will fall away.
The 'bad loss' was pretty fluky too... 4 turnovers, and a missed chip shot FG that would have won it.
Sagarin has PSU ranked higher... but, they're fractional points apart.
I don't freak out much over mid-season rankings.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 13, 2019 19:42:35 GMT
My biggest problem with the CFB Rankings is that we go from: 2018: Ohio State got beat by Purdue, bad loss. We can’t put them in. 2019: Georgia has bad loss to South Carolina. No worries. One year bad losses matter, next year they don’t? Bad losses can get overlooked, when combined with a few good wins.
I seem to recall Clemson losing bad game to Pittsburg, but still getting an invite.
I remember - I was watching ESPN Gamecast on my phone in Hong Kong.
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Post by doc on Nov 13, 2019 20:02:40 GMT
Ohio State's last 2 losses cornered the market on 'bad losses' - no other recent 'bad losses' compare.
And as I've said before - there really should be no distinguishing between good and bad losses - a loss is bad...PERIOD.
By the way, here's what happened the last 3 time's Ohio State lost a conference game...which hasn't happened very often...
2016 - Penn State's White Out, which they do every year OSU goes to Happy Valley. They get a night game, the fans get blasted out of their minds and it's one of the most difficult environments to play in. In two weeks guess what tiume OSU will play PSU in Columbus...noon.
2017 - Iowa's Children's Hospital salute. Between the first and second quarter the Hawkeyes and everyone in attendance salute the kids with cancer in the Children's Hospital which overlooks the stadium. Iowa went bonkers in the second quarter and had the game won by halftime.
2018 - Purdue dedicates the game to the student with cancer, Tyler Trent; he's on Gameday - it's a night game, the crowd is in a frenzy by game time for Tyler and Rondale Moore is unstoppable.
Teams use all kinds of motivation to play the Buckeyes - they have to play an A game every week.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 13, 2019 21:14:37 GMT
Games w/450+ yards LSU - 8 Ohio ST - 8 Clemson - 8 UGA - 5 Bama - 7 Oregon - 4 Utah - 5 Minn - 5 Penn St - 4 Okla - 9 Baylor - 5
Games allowing 450+ yards LSU - 3 Ohio St - 0 Clemson - 0 UGA - 0 Bama - 3 Oregon - 0 Utah - 0 Minn - 1 Penn St - 1 Okla - 1 Baylor - 2
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Post by bluehen on Nov 13, 2019 21:24:44 GMT
that's interesting
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 13, 2019 21:27:01 GMT
offensive snaps when leading by 9+ (i.e. 2-poss game):
1 Clemson 69.4% 2 Ohio St 68.7 3 Bama 58.5 4 Okla 54.7 5 Navy 52.0 6 UCF 51.5 8 PSU 48.1 10 LSU 43.0 11 Utah 42.6 12 UGA 41.9 22 Minn 35.9 24 Oregon 35.0 51 Baylor 26.2 86 VT 17.0 91 Nebraska 15.9 105 UNC 11.1
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 13, 2019 21:45:49 GMT
Ohio State and Clemson have not allowed a 300-yard game all season
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 13, 2019 22:09:23 GMT
Alabama has only allowed 450+ yards of offense 15 times under Nick Saban. But, six of those games have come since last December. What's at work here? My view is change in offensive philosophy to a lot more tempo/hurry-up offense. Shorter drives by the offense keeps defense on field longer. Also, Bama has had a number of defensive injuries as well.
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Post by Hero on Nov 14, 2019 8:07:17 GMT
Alabama has only allowed 450+ yards of offense 15 times under Nick Saban. But, six of those games have come since last December. What's at work here? My view is change in offensive philosophy to a lot more tempo/hurry-up offense. Shorter drives by the offense keeps defense on field longer. Also, Bama has had a number of defensive injuries as well. Not many folks seem to get how a change in offensive philosophy can drastically affect the defense. Among other things the year began with 0 LBs with starting experience.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 14, 2019 13:08:34 GMT
Of course these quick scoring , high powered offenses affect the team's 'D' states..Folks also don't realize that coach Saban is not even remotely the GOAT.
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Post by Bevo on Nov 14, 2019 13:27:16 GMT
[quote author=" bluehen" source="/post/35266/thread" timestamp[/quote]Folks also don't realize that coach Saban is not even remotely the GOAT.[/quote] Most folks recognize that Saban is at least in that discussion. He’s one title away from having more than anyone at the FBS level.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 14, 2019 14:25:33 GMT
I'd say not only is he in that discussion, he's in or near the top tier.
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