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Post by jameshowell on Jul 26, 2021 17:35:54 GMT
It is going to happen. It also looks like it might be more than two teams. I have heard that the Big Ten is "unofficially" exploring several options. The number one scenario (as of now) appears to be USC, Washington, Arizona, and Colorado. They would be in a nine-team Western Division with Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Northwestern. Eight divisional games, one crossover game with NW-Ill being protected (like Ind-Pur is now). If they can get two ACC teams (UVA, UNC, GIT, Clemson, FSU, and ND being the primary targets, those two team would go in the East and Illinois would move to the west. Nine divisional games, no crossovers.
You could expect the eight Big 12 leftovers and the eight Pac 12 leftovers to merge.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 26, 2021 17:52:06 GMT
The SEC would love to have Clemson and Florida State but it's not likely going to happen. At least from local SC sources around here.
While Florida State and Clemson would love to take the added revenue the SEC has with their TV deal with Disney/ESPN, they aren't going to be let out of the ACC, nor are they pursuing a leave.
FWIW
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Post by jameshowell on Jul 26, 2021 18:07:48 GMT
I don't think the SEC was talking to FSU, Clemson, Michigan, and Ohio State to get any of them into the SEC. I think they were trying to get them on board with convincing their conferences to split from the NCAA with the SEC. The last thing the SEC wants is to announce they are leaving the SEC only to have the Big Ten and ACC stay put.
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 26, 2021 20:54:49 GMT
I don't think the SEC was talking to FSU, Clemson, Michigan, and Ohio State to get any of them into the SEC. I think they were trying to get them on board with convincing their conferences to split from the NCAA with the SEC. The last thing the SEC wants is to announce they are leaving the SEC only to have the Big Ten and ACC stay put. I agree with that. The P4 P5 need to break away from the inconsistency of the NCAA overlord. |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 26, 2021 21:19:07 GMT
It is going to happen. It also looks like it might be more than two teams. I have heard that the Big Ten is "unofficially" exploring several options. The number one scenario (as of now) appears to be USC, Washington, Arizona, and Colorado. They would be in a nine-team Western Division with Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Northwestern. Eight divisional games, one crossover game with NW-Ill being protected (like Ind-Pur is now). If they can get two ACC teams (UVA, UNC, GIT, Clemson, FSU, and ND being the primary targets, those two team would go in the East and Illinois would move to the west. Nine divisional games, no crossovers. You could expect the eight Big 12 leftovers and the eight Pac 12 leftovers to merge. When I was thinking about the best scenario for expansion for the Big 10 I thought that Clemson and North Carolina made the most sense. Not crazy about the Pac 12 scenario.
I would have 4 pods of 4 teams. Each year 2 pods would combine as a division to get 2 division champions that play for the championship. These pods would rotate which division they are in each year.
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Post by EvilVodka on Jul 26, 2021 23:16:07 GMT
The SEC would love to have Clemson and Florida State but it's not likely going to happen. At least from local SC sources around here. While Florida State and Clemson would love to take the added revenue the SEC has with their TV deal with Disney/ESPN, they aren't going to be let out of the ACC, nor are they pursuing a leave. FWIW you do know how this expansion realignment stuff works right? no one ever telegraphs what they are doing... |
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Post by EvilVodka on Jul 26, 2021 23:18:15 GMT
It is going to happen. It also looks like it might be more than two teams. I have heard that the Big Ten is "unofficially" exploring several options. The number one scenario (as of now) appears to be USC, Washington, Arizona, and Colorado. They would be in a nine-team Western Division with Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Northwestern. Eight divisional games, one crossover game with NW-Ill being protected (like Ind-Pur is now). If they can get two ACC teams (UVA, UNC, GIT, Clemson, FSU, and ND being the primary targets, those two team would go in the East and Illinois would move to the west. Nine divisional games, no crossovers. You could expect the eight Big 12 leftovers and the eight Pac 12 leftovers to merge. interesting mix of PAC teams....I wonder how Stanford, Cal, and UCLA feel about that
Arizona is an odd add
I wonder if the SEC will move on FSU and Clemson if they think the Big 10 might add them. I'm sure ESPN doesn't want to lose these properties
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Post by Hero on Jul 27, 2021 6:46:53 GMT
The SEC would love to have Clemson and Florida State but it's not likely going to happen. At least from local SC sources around here. While Florida State and Clemson would love to take the added revenue the SEC has with their TV deal with Disney/ESPN, they aren't going to be let out of the ACC, nor are they pursuing a leave. FWIW you do know how this expansion realignment stuff works right? no one ever telegraphs what they are doing... Yes, Texas and OU has been in the works for six months. We never heard a word. |
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 27, 2021 15:21:04 GMT
It is going to happen. It also looks like it might be more than two teams. I have heard that the Big Ten is "unofficially" exploring several options. The number one scenario (as of now) appears to be USC, Washington, Arizona, and Colorado. They would be in a nine-team Western Division with Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Northwestern. Eight divisional games, one crossover game with NW-Ill being protected (like Ind-Pur is now). If they can get two ACC teams (UVA, UNC, GIT, Clemson, FSU, and ND being the primary targets, those two team would go in the East and Illinois would move to the west. Nine divisional games, no crossovers. You could expect the eight Big 12 leftovers and the eight Pac 12 leftovers to merge. interesting mix of PAC teams....I wonder how Stanford, Cal, and UCLA feel about that
Arizona is an odd add
I wonder if the SEC will move on FSU and Clemson if they think the Big 10 might add them. I'm sure ESPN doesn't want to lose these properties
I heard Arizona St. It's about getting the Seattle, Phoenix, Los Angeles and Denver TV markets. |
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Post by jameshowell on Jul 27, 2021 15:46:51 GMT
Arizona State is NOT AAU; Arizona is. If they take Pac 12 teams, they will be AAU.
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 27, 2021 16:05:54 GMT
Arizona State is NOT AAU; Arizona is. If they take Pac 12 teams, they will be AAU. Was Nebraska AAU when they were admitted? |
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Post by jameshowell on Jul 27, 2021 16:23:37 GMT
Yes
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Post by stumpystew on Jul 27, 2021 16:34:38 GMT
The ACC network is part of the Disney/ESPN empire, so there would be no loss to ESPN
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Post by ajbuckeye on Jul 27, 2021 16:54:02 GMT
The report I saw was from Dennis Dodd CBS sports. |
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Post by tigercpa on Jul 27, 2021 17:00:49 GMT
The SEC would love to have Clemson and Florida State but it's not likely going to happen. At least from local SC sources around here. While Florida State and Clemson would love to take the added revenue the SEC has with their TV deal with Disney/ESPN, they aren't going to be let out of the ACC, nor are they pursuing a leave. FWIW you do know how this expansion realignment stuff works right? no one ever telegraphs what they are doing... Too often there’s a belief that doing something fast and stupid is better than methodical and smart. |
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