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Post by Bevo on Nov 16, 2017 20:52:03 GMT
Thank you! That totally settles it. Bevo is wrong. Hero is wrong. tigercpa is wrong. FHF, as usual, is right. The winner of the CFP is the CFP national champion. Not the NCAA anything champion. Admittedly fictitious. Any post-season bowl could make the same claim. That's the opening sentence on the Wikipedia site about the CFP. I think you need to go dispute it. It's universally accepted. Any other bowl that claimed to generate an FBS champ would be laughed out of existence. |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 16, 2017 21:30:22 GMT
Thank you! That totally settles it. Bevo is wrong. Hero is wrong. tigercpa is wrong. FHF, as usual, is right. The winner of the CFP is the CFP national champion. Not the NCAA anything champion. Admittedly fictitious. Any post-season bowl could make the same claim. That's the opening sentence on the Wikipedia site about the CFP. I think you need to go dispute it. It's universally accepted. Any other bowl that claimed to generate an FBS champ would be laughed out of existence. I have seen that, and even you have to admit that it is obviously wrong. I had actually considered disputing it. I still might do so. The CFP has definitely stated what the championship represents: the CFP national championship. Nothing more. That is exactly what I have been saying all along. |
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Post by Hero on Nov 17, 2017 0:58:50 GMT
If true, that would be a first. Nope, not a first by a long shot. I probably agree with Bevo, and Donald Trump, on most things. All evidence to the contrary. |
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Post by Hero on Nov 17, 2017 1:00:37 GMT
Thank you! That totally settles it. Bevo is wrong. Hero is wrong. tigercpa is wrong. FHF, as usual, is right. The winner of the CFP is the CFP national champion. Not the NCAA anything champion. Admittedly fictitious. Any post-season bowl could make the same claim. That's the opening sentence on the Wikipedia site about the CFP. I think you need to go dispute it. It's universally accepted. Any other bowl that claimed to generate an FBS champ would be laughed out of existence. There you go bringing facts into the argument again. Laughing |
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 17, 2017 1:11:41 GMT
Thank you! That totally settles it. Bevo is wrong. Hero is wrong. tigercpa is wrong. FHF, as usual, is right. The winner of the CFP is the CFP national champion. Not the NCAA anything champion. Admittedly fictitious. Any post-season bowl could make the same claim. No, sorry...it only settles that you continue to deny the reality that's staring you in the face.
No other bowl winner can claim to be the national champions. Only the CFP winner is regarded as college football's "national champions" at the highest level of competition. It is a recognized, accepted and agreed upon process for determining same.
No one cares whether the CFP trophy has "NCAA" anywhere on it. It matters not in the grand scheme of things.
Again , I go back to why we have to denigrate one versus another. Both are fun and enjoyable. Let it be, let it be, whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 17, 2017 3:00:00 GMT
Nope, not a first by a long shot. I probably agree with Bevo, and Donald Trump, on most things. All evidence to the contrary. You have done the same thing that Bevo has done, i.e., falsely accusing me of being a Hillary supporter when you know full well that I detest the woman and what she stands for, and believe that she belongs behind bars. Perhaps you and Bevo are incapable of understanding that I have contempt for both Trump and Hillary. There are two big differences between the two: (1) I agree with most of Trump’s policies and appointments and disagree with Hillary on nearly everything, and (2) Hillary is a crook and Trump isn’t, except for the Trump University scam. Sad to say, but the evidence suggests that each of you lie about me because you consistently lose in the arena of ideas. Bevo takes it a step further with incessant personal attacks and name-calling. You just lied about me again, about “the evidence to the contrary “. When the two of you stop lying about me, the problem will go away. Bevo happens to be politically conservative. I am probably even more politically conservative. That is why we agree on most issues. The big difference between us, and between you and me, is that I am able to distinguish between Trump’s generally good political positions and appointments, and his consistently despicable personal behavior and demeanor. |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 17, 2017 3:14:57 GMT
Thank you! That totally settles it. Bevo is wrong. Hero is wrong. tigercpa is wrong. FHF, as usual, is right. The winner of the CFP is the CFP national champion. Not the NCAA anything champion. Admittedly fictitious. Any post-season bowl could make the same claim. No, sorry...it only settles that you continue to deny the reality that's staring you in the face.
No other bowl winner can claim to be the national champions. Only the CFP winner is regarded as college football's "national champions" at the highest level of competition. It is a recognized, accepted and agreed upon process for determining same.
No one cares whether the CFP trophy has "NCAA" anywhere on it. It matters not in the grand scheme of things.
Again , I go back to why we have to denigrate one versus another. Both are fun and enjoyable. Let it be, let it be, whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
You provided the conclusive evidence!! It is exactly as I have been saying all along. It is the “CFP national championship”. Nothing more. That is exactly what the CFP says, and the CFP makes no claims whatsoever beyond that. You are dead wrong — there is nothing to prevent any bowl game from making a similar claim. Who could stop any bowl from doing so? It actually does matter whether the CFP is or is not an NCAA national championship. That distinguishes whether it is real or mythical. That has been conclusively settled now. I won’t let it go because I believe that the P5 conferences collectively, since the advent of the BCS, have become inherently evil. I have said many times that I encourage them to make good on their threat to leave the NCAA and form their own governing body. I would wish them good luck and good riddance. |
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Post by Hero on Nov 17, 2017 3:59:32 GMT
All evidence to the contrary. You have done the same thing that Bevo has done, i.e., falsely accusing me of being a Hillary supporter when you know full well that I detest the woman and what she stands for, and believe that she belongs behind bars. Perhaps you and Bevo are incapable of understanding that I have contempt for both Trump and Hillary. There are two big differences between the two: (1) I agree with most of Trump’s policies and appointments and disagree with Hillary on nearly everything, and (2) Hillary is a crook and Trump isn’t, except for the Trump University scam. Sad to say, but the evidence suggests that each of you lie about me because you consistently lose in the arena of ideas. Bevo takes it a step further with incessant personal attacks and name-calling. You just lied about me again, about “the evidence to the contrary “. When the two of you stop lying about me, the problem will go away. Bevo happens to be politically conservative. I am probably even more politically conservative. That is why we agree on most issues. The big difference between us, and between you and me, is that I am able to distinguish between Trump’s generally good political positions and appointments, and his consistently despicable personal behavior and demeanor. "Personal attacks and name-calling" should be the title of your book. |
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Post by Bevo on Nov 17, 2017 7:10:24 GMT
Perhaps you and Bevo are incapable of understanding that I have contempt for both Trump and Hillary. There are two big differences between the two: Actually, there is one other big difference between the two: Although you proclaim to "detest Hillary" (and I have no reason to doubt you), you spent 90+% of your time here bashing Trump. Every time yahoo news published a negative story about Trump, whether true or fake, you couldn't WAIT to come post it here, and use it as a platform to continue bashing Trump. It was a BINARY choice last year. When you spend 90% of your time being negative about one side, you are supporting the other. You can lie to yourself all you want. But, that was the effect of your actions. I know, you're real intent was simply to tweak Hero, CPA and I. You like getting under people's skins. That is, by definition, exactly what internet trolls do. It's why they are so universally despised. What I don't understand is, why a person of your great intellect wants to be perceived this way? |
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 17, 2017 12:02:32 GMT
Perhaps you and Bevo are incapable of understanding that I have contempt for both Trump and Hillary. There are two big differences between the two: Actually, there is one other big difference between the two: Although you proclaim to "detest Hillary" (and I have no reason to doubt you), you spent 90+% of your time here bashing Trump. Every time yahoo news published a negative story about Trump, whether true or fake, you couldn't WAIT to come post it here, and use it as a platform to continue bashing Trump. It was a BINARY choice last year. When you spend 90% of your time being negative about one side, you are supporting the other. You can lie to yourself all you want. But, that was the effect of your actions. I know, you're real intent was simply to tweak Hero, CPA and I. You like getting under people's skins. That is, by definition, exactly what internet trolls do. It's why they are so universally despised. What I don't understand is, why a person of your great intellect wants to be perceived this way? So, am I correct that these are your primary points? 1. It was a binary choice last year 2. I supported Hillary because I spent 90% of my time being negative about Trump 3. I am lying to myself 4. I do what Internet trolls do 5. I am universally despised 6. I have been supporting Hillary, even though you accept that I despise her 7. I like getting under people’s skins My answer: 1. It was not a binary choice last year. Every voter had the right and the freedom to vote for any qualified person. I said all along that I would not vote for Clinton or Trump, and would vote for another person. I voted for Marco Rubio by write-in. 2. Logic takes a holiday. You simply can’t accept that I detest everything about Hillary. What would be the purpose of my continually bashing her if everyone else here already agrees with me? 3. The amateur psychoanalyst in you didn’t say exactly how I am supposedly lying to myself. Are you suggesting that deep down I actually supported Hillary, which would be consistent with your previous assertions, even though you accept that I totally detest her? Do you realize how nonsensical that is? You have absolutely no basis to reach such a conclusion. It would be yet again something you made up totally out of thin air. It would be yet another lie. 4. You are seemingly incapable of creating a post without launching a personal attack. One of the reasons I detest Donald Trump as a person is because he continually labels, belittled, demeans and degrades good people. Trump instinctively takes the low road. You also have a propensity for taking the low road. It is the easy way out. Simply label someone, and you don’t have to strain your brain to compete intellectually. 5. If true, I can live with being universally despised. I am comfortable within myself. I know that I am a good person. I also know that I have nothing to gain by worrying about whether others love or hate me. 6. That is idiotic, nonsensical. 7. I like to make people think, by challenging the orthodoxy of Trump’s easily manipulated legion of votarient devotees. I have found that sycophants don’t like being challenged. to think when it is so much easier to quote others who have done their thinking for them. You wrongly characterize that as my desiring to get under people’s skin. |
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Post by bluehen on Nov 17, 2017 13:11:34 GMT
Now you big fans of the mythical system..............simply google "NCAA Division 1 National Football Championship" and see what you find. I gotta tell you , every time I do that the first heading that comes up is Wikipedia and when I open that there is absolutely ZERO mention of any Clemson, Bama, CFP, "who's In" ,Dr.Pepper, ESPN, Larry Culpepper, Bowls, committees etc.etc.. none of that stuff.
... and as far as I know this made up 'P5' club is still NCAA D1 isn't it ?
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Post by Bevo on Nov 17, 2017 13:11:46 GMT
Since you are having so much trouble understanding, I'll help you:
You are still lying to yourself, and to us. You want so very hard to believe that last year's election was "not a binary choice". It was. In a very real, practical sense: The WINNER was going to be either Trump, or Hillary. You chose to avoid a choice. Ok, that's your right. But, it doesn't change the FACT that the winner was going to come from one of TWO options.
I'll let the rest of my comments speak for themselves. I derive no pleasure from going over that ground. In fact, it greatly disappoints me.
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 17, 2017 13:16:29 GMT
No, sorry...it only settles that you continue to deny the reality that's staring you in the face.
No other bowl winner can claim to be the national champions. Only the CFP winner is regarded as college football's "national champions" at the highest level of competition. It is a recognized, accepted and agreed upon process for determining same.
No one cares whether the CFP trophy has "NCAA" anywhere on it. It matters not in the grand scheme of things.
Again , I go back to why we have to denigrate one versus another. Both are fun and enjoyable. Let it be, let it be, whisper words of wisdom, let it be.
You provided the conclusive evidence!! It is exactly as I have been saying all along. It is the “CFP national championship”. Nothing more. That is exactly what the CFP says, and the CFP makes no claims whatsoever beyond that. You are dead wrong — there is nothing to prevent any bowl game from making a similar claim. Who could stop any bowl from doing so? It actually does matter whether the CFP is or is not an NCAA national championship. That distinguishes whether it is real or mythical. That has been conclusively settled now. I won’t let it go because I believe that the P5 conferences collectively, since the advent of the BCS, have become inherently evil. I have said many times that I encourage them to make good on their threat to leave the NCAA and form their own governing body. I would wish them good luck and good riddance. It matters to you.
It does not matter to the 75,000,000 other college football fans who fully recognize and legitimize it.
Both championships are real, neither is "mythical". Both can co-exist. Both are won under agreed upon terms and conditions.
You have chosen a form over substance position...I'm not judging, just stating facts.
Who says you can't compete outside of P5 - look at UCF and Memphis...heck Memphis was #13 and undefeated in the initial rankings 2 years ago.
Now they are both in the playoff rankings again.
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Post by Bevo on Nov 17, 2017 13:19:21 GMT
Now you big fans of the mythical system..............simply google "NCAA Division 1 National Football Championship" and see what you find. I gotta tell you , every time I do that the first heading that comes up is Wikipedia and when I open that there is absolutely ZERO mention of any Clemson, Bama, CFP, "who's In" ,Dr.Pepper, ESPN, Larry Culpepper, Bowls, committees etc.etc.. none of that stuff. ... and as far as I know this made up 'P5' club is still NCAA D1 isn't it ? Hen.. I'm sorry.. but, I am DONE with this argument. You and Herd can piss all over the FBS Championship all you like. I am not going to respond. You have your opinions. I have mine. Neither of us is EVER going to change. So, why bother? In the end, we will only end up hating each other. Life is too short for that. I like college football. I can't wait for the day that Texas gets back in the CFP. And, I will proudly enjoy our rightful claim as FBS Champion when we win it. Nothing you, or anyone else can say is going to steal my joy. |
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Post by bluehen on Nov 17, 2017 13:55:45 GMT
Thank you! That totally settles it. Bevo is wrong. Hero is wrong. tigercpa is wrong. FHF, as usual, is right. The winner of the CFP is the CFP national champion. Not the NCAA anything champion. Admittedly fictitious. Any post-season bowl could make the same claim. That's the opening sentence on the Wikipedia site about the CFP. I think you need to go dispute it. It's universally accepted. Any other bowl that claimed to generate an FBS champ would be laughed out of existence. Wikipedia is dead wrong..simple as that. Agree about "universally accepted" just as it was "universally accepted" that the Earth was flat. |
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