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Post by Hero on Nov 15, 2017 1:51:37 GMT
Yes... He dud. Four was the right number in the majority of years. Two was the next closest. He dud what? Actually, 4 would be a very good number for any playoff, just as long as the 4 best teams are selected to compete. Unfortunately, in the real world that rarely happens. How often do all of the top-4 seeds in any playoff reach the semifinals? Every year in football.
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Post by Hero on Nov 15, 2017 1:52:48 GMT
You have no idea what you are talking about. You are making it up as you go along... Bevo is spot-on here. Bingo
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 15, 2017 8:01:21 GMT
The peanut gallery dutifully chimes in...
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Post by tigercpa on Nov 15, 2017 12:39:16 GMT
He dud what? Actually, 4 would be a very good number for any playoff, just as long as the 4 best teams are selected to compete. Unfortunately, in the real world that rarely happens. How often do all of the top-4 seeds in any playoff reach the semifinals? Every year in football.
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Post by doc on Nov 15, 2017 14:07:21 GMT
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Post by Bevo on Nov 15, 2017 14:07:44 GMT
Didn't Phil Steele do a study showing that most every year, 4 would have been optimum? Yes... Here it is... plus.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUL13/DBJuly24.htmlI think this is the third or fourth time I've posted this on this board. I don't think Herd has EVER looked at it. Even though he loves Phil Steele on most other topics. His analysis showed that a 16-team field was consistently the WORST option. 4 teams was the best in the most years. 2 teams was enough the second most times.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 15, 2017 15:29:29 GMT
You don’t know that. In fact, the evidence suggests otherwise. Every CFP semifinal game has been a blowout, except for Ohio State’s 7-point win over Alabama. Half of the CFP semifinal games have been decided by scoring margins of over 30 points.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 15, 2017 15:37:12 GMT
Didn't Phil Steele do a study showing that most every year, 4 would have been optimum? Yes... Here it is... plus.philsteele.com/Blogs/2013/JUL13/DBJuly24.htmlI think this is the third or fourth time I've posted this on this board. I don't think Herd has EVER looked at it. Even though he loves Phil Steele on most other topics. His analysis showed that a 16-team field was consistently the WORST option. 4 teams was the best in the most years. 2 teams was enough the second most times. Another personal attack. Ho hum. It is a no-brainer that a 4-team playoff for any NCAA championship in any sport at any level would be the best option - but only if the best 4 teams are selected. However, history has taught us that seldom happens. Most often, one or more lower seeded teams proves to be one of the 4-best.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 15, 2017 16:05:11 GMT
What a system! According to CBS here are only 5 'MEANINGFUL' games to be played in the final two weeks of the FBS regular season...5 meaningful games out of the 130 FBS games to be played in this period. So only 3.8% of FBS football has meaning as we come down to regular season crunch time ??. That means 96.2% of remaining regular season FBS football is meaningless....and this is the sport often touted to have the most meaningful regular season ? Yeah, 3.8% meaningful. The great meaningfulness of the FBS regular season has to be one of the greatest myths in all of sports.
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Post by doc on Nov 15, 2017 16:43:50 GMT
What a system! According to CBS here are only 5 'MEANINGFUL' games to be played in the final two weeks of the FBS regular season...5 meaningful games out of the 130 FBS games to be played in this period. So only 3.8% of FBS football has meaning as we come down to regular season crunch time ??. That means 96.2% of remaining regular season FBS football is meaningless....and this is the sport often touted to have the most meaningful regular season ? Yeah, 3.8% meaningful. The great meaningfulness of the FBS regular season has to be one of the greatest myths in all of sports. I think that's a bit of a stretch... Wisconsin vs Michigan is meaningful. Alabama vs Auburn is meaningful. Ohio State vs Michigan is meaningful. Georgia vs Georgia Tech is meaningful. Clemson vs South Carolina is meaningful. Wisconsin vs Minnesota is meaningful. Notre Dame vs Navy and Stanford is meaningful. The BIG 10, ACC, SEC and Big 12 championship games are meaningful. In fact, every game being played by a team with a sniff of making the playoffs is meaningful. I think the top 8 or nine may still have a shot so that's 16/18 meaningful games plus the championship games. I realize there are about 130 teams but many games are pretty meaningless at this point of the season simply because most teams have more than 2 losses and when they're not playing not playing a contender - the games, from a playoff perspective, are meaningless. That's just the way it is.
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Post by bluehen on Nov 15, 2017 17:10:26 GMT
The last two weeks of the regular season doesn't include those conference champ games, which of course are meaningful. So that leaves your meaningful list at 8 games compared to CBS's at 5 games. CBS doesn't consider the two ND games as pertinent to the mythical national championship.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 15, 2017 17:11:59 GMT
Games featuring teams in the hunt for conference championships are not meaningful? These teams might not agree.
Games featuring teams with a shot at making the NCAA D-I, D-II and D-III national championship playoffs are not meaningful? These teams might not agree.
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Post by doc on Nov 15, 2017 18:38:09 GMT
The last two weeks of the regular season doesn't include those conference champ games, which of course are meaningful. So that leaves your meaningful list at 8 games compared to CBS's at 5 games. CBS doesn't consider the two ND games as pertinent to the mythical national championship. And like i said, any game featuring a team in the top 8 or 9 of the rankings is meaningful - I highly doubt Oklahoma is going to lose to Kansas or Ohio state to Illinois but to those teams, the games are very meaningful. there are coaches fighting for their jobs - their games are meaningful to them. some may be hoping to get promoted to a higher level job, their games are meaningful. I think it should be a pretty wild 2 weeks!
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Post by Bevo on Nov 15, 2017 19:04:32 GMT
Another personal attack. Ho hum. Expressing my opinion that you might not have read a post is a personal attack? ROFLMAO!!! You need to suck it up, buttercup! (Ooops.... I've done it again!)
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Nov 15, 2017 22:13:09 GMT
Another personal attack. Ho hum. Expressing my opinion that you might not have read a post is a personal attack? ROFLMAO!!! You need to suck it up, buttercup! (Ooops.... I've done it again!) You had zero basis to think that, and no reason to take another gratuitous shot. But, I accept that you can’t help yourself. I can actually understand your frustration at being outgunned at every turn. The tortuous route you took in a debate concerning the CFP to falsely accuse me of being a Hillary supporter is a case in point. There was nothing to prompt it, and it bore absolutely no relevance to the issue at hand. Nevertheless, you chose to go well out of your way to launch yet another unwarranted and baseless attack against me. Mind you, I am not upset or offended. I realize that such personal attacks are a sign of weakness, signifying your surrender in the contest of ideas.
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