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Post by bluehen on Jul 31, 2017 20:41:26 GMT
Those monikers were strictly made up by the cartel and its media outlets for greedy self serving post season purposes. I need proof to change my mind. No... those monikers were applied by the PRESS, who could see the very clear, and OBVIOUS monetary divide that exists between the two groups. Surely, you can see the difference? Glad you recognize that the media (especially the media that profit from those high $ win-at-all costs programs and leagues) helped make up these 'G5' and 'P5' classifications. Some CF fans believe they are NCAA classifications. The cartel teams and leagues have fostered those monikers too.
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Post by Bevo on Aug 1, 2017 4:21:06 GMT
No... those monikers were applied by the PRESS, who could see the very clear, and OBVIOUS monetary divide that exists between the two groups. Surely, you can see the difference? Glad you recognize that the media (especially the media that profit from those high $ win-at-all costs programs and leagues) helped make up these 'G5' and 'P5' classifications. Some CF fans believe they are NCAA classifications. The cartel teams and leagues have fostered those monikers too. I can see what IS. I don't really care who named it, or why.
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Post by Hero on Aug 4, 2017 21:21:05 GMT
My logic is' seeing is believing'. Anybody can offer words. The two class system was designed to prevent opportunity. There is no such thing as an NCAA G5 division or an NCAA P5 division. Those monikers were strictly made up by the cartel and its media outlets for greedy self serving post season purposes. I need proof to change my mind. OK but first give us proof of the cartel. You want proof but don't offer proof. I should be surprised.
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Post by bluehen on Aug 5, 2017 11:57:20 GMT
0-19 is a fact. The Cartel is comprised of the 65 Presidents of the universities that decided to call themselves "power 5" schools, the 5 conference commissioners of the leagues they decided to call "power 5" conferences and ESPN/ABC ( Disney) which runs the FBS post season and decides to label everything "P5 / G5 "
Cartel ( according to Webster ) - An association of businesses that work together to control production and pricing of products.
To further understand how the FBS post season works, Hero, google 'revenue distribution in the CFP system '.
FBS college football is the ONLY NCAA sport run by a Cartel.
I'm here for you, Hero, to help you understand how big time CF really works. Feel free to consult anytime
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Post by Hero on Aug 6, 2017 11:17:13 GMT
0-19 is a fact. The Cartel is comprised of the 65 Presidents of the universities that decided to call themselves "power 5" schools, the 5 conference commissioners of the leagues they decided to call "power 5" conferences and ESPN/ABC ( Disney) which runs the FBS post season and decides to label everything "P5 / G5 " Cartel ( according to Webster ) - An association of businesses that work together to control production and pricing of products. To further understand how the FBS post season works, Hero, google 'revenue distribution in the CFP system '. FBS college football is the ONLY NCAA sport run by a Cartel. I'm here for you, Hero, to help you understand how big time CF really works. Feel free to consult anytime You honestly imagine 65 university presidents got together for the purpose of calling themselves G5? Bowl games are about money. Is there anyone who doesn't know this? I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Getting 65 university presidents to agree about anything is the best I have heard since the "Magic Bullet Theory".
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Post by bluehen on Aug 6, 2017 13:02:33 GMT
Forgot to mention the big bowl executives/directors as part of the Cartel.
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Post by Hero on Aug 6, 2017 18:41:36 GMT
Forgot to mention the big bowl executives/directors as part of the Cartel. Right
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Aug 6, 2017 22:03:17 GMT
The P5 conferences caved quickly when Utah's AG threatened an antitrust lawsuit.
The P5 conferences foolishly dug their own hole by systematically blocking G5 conference teams from any reasonable opportunity to compete in post-season playoffs.
Prima fascie cartel. Perhaps even res ipsa loquitur.
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Post by GatorGrad on Aug 21, 2017 14:20:29 GMT
I believe there were a few seasons where an unbeaten TCU, BSU, and Utah would have made a four team playoff if there was one. Unfortunately, back then only two teams were permitted to play for the BCS Championship. We have a four-team CFP now, but TCU and Utah are in P5 conferences so it will be up to BSU, Houston, or another team to make a run and have a shot.
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Post by FLORIDA HERD FAN on Aug 21, 2017 15:42:46 GMT
A snowflake's chance in hell.
That might be the case if the final four was merit based, i.e., how each team performs relative to its performance.
But, in the CFP, MOV is ruled out and SOS is over-emphasized. That effectively makes it impossible for any non-P5 conference team to qualify.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 21, 2017 16:14:12 GMT
A snowflake's chance in hell. That might be the case if the final four was merit based, i.e., how each team performs relative to its performance. But, in the CFP, MOV is ruled out and SOS is over-emphasized. That effectively makes it impossible for any non-P5 conference team to qualify.
Not even sure what that means...
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Post by bluehen on Aug 21, 2017 21:23:09 GMT
I believe there were a few seasons where an unbeaten TCU, BSU, and Utah would have made a four team playoff if there was one. Unfortunately, back then only two teams were permitted to play for the BCS Championship. We have a four-team CFP now, but TCU and Utah are in P5 conferences so it will be up to BSU, Houston, or another team to make a run and have a shot. Are you speculating that some of those teams mentioned would have been more than capable of 'playing' their way into a national semi-final? ( no doubt) ...or they would've have been 'voted' into the Invitational ? ( nope )
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Post by GatorGrad on Aug 22, 2017 13:26:33 GMT
I believe there were a few seasons where an unbeaten TCU, BSU, and Utah would have made a four team playoff if there was one. Unfortunately, back then only two teams were permitted to play for the BCS Championship. We have a four-team CFP now, but TCU and Utah are in P5 conferences so it will be up to BSU, Houston, or another team to make a run and have a shot. Are you speculating that some of those teams mentioned would have been more than capable of 'playing' their way into a national semi-final? ( no doubt) ...or they would've have been 'voted' into the Invitational ? ( nope ) In 2009, TCU (12-0) finished #4 in the final BCS rankings. In 2010, TCU (12-0) finished #3. I do think they would have been included in a four-team playoff. There was also a year where Boise State had the momentum to finish in the top four had they finished 12-0 but they ended up dropping a game.
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Post by doc on Aug 22, 2017 13:41:15 GMT
Looking forward to everyone crying for South Florida to be in the playoff this upcoming season when they run the table in the AAC - I think they're toughest non conference game is against Illinois.
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 22, 2017 18:02:59 GMT
There are usually 10 teams that contend for the title, and this is determined by the blue-chip ratio, not format.
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