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Post by tigercpa on Aug 29, 2022 16:26:56 GMT
So what should be the punishment for Trump willfully having confidential documents to which he was not legally entitled to have? Keep in mind that he denied having such documents despite multiple retrieval attempts and requests. All of that sounds juicy until you realize that Trump has the legal right to access any and all documents created during his presidency, as do all former presidents. The classification doesn't matter, that's just a red herring. This is nothing more than a political hit job - especially when you consider that the the Presidential Records Act is not a criminally-enforceable statute. See Armstrong v. Bush, 924 F.2d 282, 290 (D.C. Cir. 1991); 44 U.S.C.A. §§ 2201. This was likely a search and destroy mission - not for documents that might indict Trump, but documents that might indict Obama, Clinton and Biden (Crossfire Hurricane - when they illegally spied on Trump and his campaign.) And of course, the FBI / DOJ will hide behind the "ongoing investigation", which will allow them the continue to leak nonsense to the WaPo and NYT.
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Post by SCFan on Aug 29, 2022 20:38:39 GMT
So what should be the punishment for Trump willfully having confidential documents to which he was not legally entitled to have? Keep in mind that he denied having such documents despite multiple retrieval attempts and requests. All of that sounds juicy until you realize that Trump has the legal right to access any and all documents created during his presidency, as do all former presidents. The classification doesn't matter, that's just a red herring. This is nothing more than a political hit job - especially when you consider that the the Presidential Records Act is not a criminally-enforceable statute. See Armstrong v. Bush, 924 F.2d 282, 290 (D.C. Cir. 1991); 44 U.S.C.A. §§ 2201. This was likely a search and destroy mission - not for documents that might indict Trump, but documents that might indict Obama, Clinton and Biden (Crossfire Hurricane - when they illegally spied on Trump and his campaign.) And of course, the FBI / DOJ will hide behind the "ongoing investigation", which will allow them the continue to leak nonsense to the WaPo and NYT. "during his presidency". But contrary to your conspiracies, trump is no longer president. So you are saying we are all equal under the law. But some fat orange rats are more equal than others...
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Post by tigercpa on Aug 30, 2022 13:51:44 GMT
Trumps obvious grandstanding combined with the DOJ waffling leads me to believe that the DOJ not only screwed up, but was caught, and they act like they know it. We all know that if they had anything of any legal legit substance, we would know it and they would be using it.
Just like Epstein's client lit that, surprisingly, has NOT been leaked. Why?
Operating from the premise that Trump was forewarned of this raid (as indicated by his lawyer being right there and watching it on CCTV and certainly supported by his “fearless” conduct since the raid), we have to also accept he was fully prepared and knew exactly what was available to be taken. (Bait for his trap - he is always 2 steps ahead). What if the feds just walked into Trump’s spider web?
Let's face it, if your last name is Clinton or Biden or Nadler you can afford to be stupid. Because some idiot named Comey is going to go on TV and claim not to be able to see a crime right in front of his face.
Let’s insert two key facts that keep being overlooked in these discussions.
1. POTUS is the unity executive. He can change, up or down, any classification. He doesn’t have to follow regulations and SOP re declassification.
2. The POTUS ultimately decides what constitute his private papers not the Archivist. An outgoing POTUS and the Archivist usually work together, negotiate to arrive at a satisfactory solution, but ultimately the POTUS can tell the Archivist to pound sand.
So, then we have a situation here with the Archivist being rebuffed by DJT and the Archivist getting butthurt and calling in DoJ who executed a search warrant based on a very suspect predicate.
These powers are plenary. For those of you in Rio Linda, that means unqualified or absolute.
This is a case that probably should have been litigated before SCOTUS some time ago.
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Post by aufan on Aug 31, 2022 0:53:41 GMT
Ah yes, Trump was sitting on documents that would incriminate Clinton, Biden, and Obama… for a year and a half? What was he saving them for?
Trump is so smart that he is two steps ahead and laid a trap for the FBI?
Considering how you’ve littered this thread with verifiably false information, I’m confident you are on to something here Tiger.
I’m sure Trump will be reinstated as president any moment now.
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Post by SCFan on Aug 31, 2022 3:56:20 GMT
Ah yes, Trump was sitting on documents that would incriminate Clinton, Biden, and Obama… for a year and a half? What was he saving them for? Trump is so smart that he is two steps ahead and laid a trap for the FBI? Considering how you’ve littered this thread with verifiably false information, I’m confident you are on to something here Tiger. I’m sure Trump will be reinstated as president any moment now. He probably thinks everyone is as easy to con as he is. I noticed today that Melania said that Donald would never keep his stuff in her room. Separate rooms. That's a real shocker...
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Post by aufan on Apr 5, 2023 3:35:11 GMT
Once all the fraudulent votes are tossed out in Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Pennsylvania, Trump will be back in
Libtards quit counting in these states until their truckloads of Biden ballots could arrive
It will all be cleaned up and these states will flip back
Did Trump wind up winning the 2020 election, or did something else happen?
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