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Post by doc on Dec 8, 2020 17:31:26 GMT
You're right Doc about the 1 vs 16, But the one of them did win, and a number have been close to upsetting. And a number of 2's, 3's and 4's have lost to the lower seeds. And now one of those "teams that don't play anybody and would be wiped out in a REAL conference" is ranked #1 in the AP poll (Gonzaga). Until the G5 teams are given a chance to play for the title, we will never know if they can win it or not. Like I said, I'd be in favor of an all inclusive playoff. I don't see them going from 4 to 16 but I guess 4 to 8 is possible. Under that scenario I'd guess the five P5 conferences would get an automatic bid, they'd give a bid to the top team from the group of 5 (similar to the NY 6 bowls) and there would be 2 at large bids. So Coastal or UC or whoever would typically be the #8 seed and play the #1 seed - I just don't see that going well for the G5 team.
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Post by doc on Dec 8, 2020 15:19:37 GMT
Coastal Carolina is a nice story. Had BYU gained another yard and a half the story would be dead and everyone would be saying the Cougars deserve a chance. Coastal has one win over a power 5 team - Kansas - who is winless. If you ranked the power 5 teams from 1-130, Alabama would be on top and Kansas would be at the bottom, they are that bad. The Jayhawks have lost 54 straight conference road games. They've lost their conference games this year by an average of 33 points per game and that includes a 3 point loss this past weekend. (Coastal beat them by 15) Coastal has wins over Louisiana (which did beat Iowa State) and the aforementioned, BYU. It would not be a pretty game if they were to play games against the truly elite teams. Sorry, but that's just how I see it. Depth, athletic ability, attrition all would play against them.
At the same time, I'd like to see an all inclusive playoff just to enjoy the 50-10 ass whippings the top seeded teams would administer in the first round of games. My guess is it would be quite similar to the #1 vs #16 record in the NCAA basketball tournament - 1 win for the #16's vs a whole damn bunch of losses.
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Post by doc on Dec 6, 2020 19:36:29 GMT
OSU didn’t lose to Indiana but I have to say the Hoosiers are playing great football - this is an example of a school not giving up on a coach and letting him build his culture. The IU players love Coach Allen and they play hard for him. Hopefully he’s built something they can sustain and he’ll stay there awhile.
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Post by doc on Dec 5, 2020 21:21:04 GMT
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Post by doc on Dec 5, 2020 19:15:02 GMT
Yeah - MSU not showing much so far, 28-0 at half.
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Post by doc on Dec 5, 2020 16:42:36 GMT
4 offensive lineman out including 3 starters and the backup right tackle. Also starting linebacker and safety. Let’s go Bucks!!
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Post by doc on Dec 4, 2020 20:05:40 GMT
If ample evidence is not found it will validate the election and those that did not vote for Biden will at least have the piece of mind that he won the election fairly. As you all know I tend to stay out of these political conversations but this will never, ever happen....
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Post by doc on Dec 4, 2020 18:29:20 GMT
Joe Burrow was a crushing blow. Even though the Bengals were not winning you could see improvements and also you could see Burrow getting better and better. Then last week we find out late Friday night that the Buckeyes game is cancelled. They have a flight to MSU tonight at 8. So at least we should know by then if the game is on. Agreed, it has been a bittersweet year and very strange season to say the least. I just checked Eleven Warriors and the team doctor said all indications are they should safely be able to play the game - lets hope MSU feels the same way! As for Burrow - all season long you've just been waiting for something bad to happen to him. He's been fun to watch but has taken a pounding just about every game. At the same time, he's fearless and unbelievably competitive. For the Bengals to put him out there with an O-line consisting of players cut by other teams and poorly drafted players of their own it was an absolute travesty. Couple that with no running game to speak of once Mixon went down and it was only a matter of time before Burrow got seriously injured - I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner. So last week the Bengals trot out a guy who wasn't even on the active roster the previous week. Amazingly, Cincinnati had a real shot at winning the game until the taxi squad QB fumbled at midfield with about 50 seconds left to play - this despite having 150 total yards of offense for the game. In comparison, Denver played their game with a taxi squad wide receiver who had never played a down at QB since college and they manage 115 yards. Such is life as a Buckeyes/Bengals fan in 2020....
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Post by doc on Dec 3, 2020 20:56:07 GMT
The cost of a college education is something that not many can afford and I say that as a university employee who raises money for scholarships. The average student where I work pays about $30k a year when you factor in room and board costs. I don't think it's wise for 22 year-olds to start their professional careers close to $100k in the hole. Places with large endowments can help lower the costs but my school isn't in that category. Most of our 'scholarships' are basically tuition discounts to get our tuition competitive with the state schools. Personally, I think there are some kids who shouldn't go to college. One of my sons went to school, got a job in his field and hated it. He's now going through the electrician apprenticeship program and he's so much happier. He got married last year, they just bought a house recently, and he'll do very well as an electrician.
But to your question - it's just a much bigger issue and schools are pricing themselves so high that kids have to take out huge loans to go to school and then face huge debt when they graduate. that is what needs fixed - if you take the loans you should pay them back but some should realize they shouldn't take the loans. Our kids were fortunate that I worked at a university and they were able to take advantage of our tuition exchange program - all 3 graduated tuition debt free. Our sons are both married and their wives both have debt from their college days. Back when I went to school I owed $3000 when I graduated. $3000 back then certainly couldn't be the equivalent of $100k today. And now, think of all the revenue the schools are losing due to COVID and the lack of athletic dollars. Some places are going to shut down, for sure. When schools like Stanford, Iowa and Clemson are eliminating sports teams it's hard to imagine smaller places with far less revenue and resources surviving.
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Post by doc on Dec 3, 2020 20:40:11 GMT
This season has been a major disappointment to say the least - starting in late October, 2 cancelled games, the Big Ten is an embarrassment (PSU and Michigan a combined 3-9) and they still need to play 2 games for the right to play Northwestern (most likely) in the Big Ten Championship. Couple that with Joe Burrow having his knee blown out a couple weeks ago in the Bengals loss to The Washington No Names and it hasn't been one of my favorite seasons as a football fan.
I do think they'll play this week at Michigan State. I don't know who might sit out due to COVID but I did hear one of their receivers could be sidelined - that's a position where they have great depth. Ryan Day won't be coaching the game but I'm sure he'll be connected someway. Then it's up to Michigan week where I hear they're having their own COVID issues. I've also heard that should OSU only get 5 games played (and win them all) they'll amend the rules and allow them to play in the championship game. Chances are every other team in their division will have 2 losses (Indiana plays Wisconsin this weekend without Michael Penix) and OSU, should they win on Saturday, wouldn't have any. It is disappointing that they cancelled the Illinois game, especially given they said after the fact that they could have played. I don't think they had a good handle on the severity of the issue as the cases started to pop up later in the week.
Playoff? I don't know. I certainly would understand the argument to keep them out with only 6 or 7 games played compared to some teams playing 10-11. And again, the Big Ten has not been a gauntlet by any means this year. I just hope they get to play at least 4 more games - players like Fields, Olave, Davis and Wade are probably playing their last games with OSU and I'd like to see them finish on a high note - especially Fields. He fought hard for the season and never threatened to sit the year out. It would be nice to see him finish the season with a flourish.
And whatever happens, someone please beat the shit out of Notre Dame.
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Post by doc on Nov 25, 2020 14:19:29 GMT
This wasn’t called targeting - compare this to the hit called last year in favor of Trevor Lawrence and Clemson....
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Post by doc on Nov 25, 2020 14:13:17 GMT
Yep - they would have played a power five team on the road, that’s a nice win if you can pull it off. UC and BYU both have an open date in early December but my guess is they won’t play because they won’t be able to agree where to play, as if home field this season really matters. If you are Cinncy, do you take the chance and schedule BYU? Or, do you let it ride and hope the Committee comes through for ya? I think it would definitely benefit the winner for sure. I also think that winner would still need a shitload of help to make it - chaos would need to ensue.
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Post by doc on Nov 25, 2020 13:27:50 GMT
Yep - they would have played a power five team on the road, that’s a nice win if you can pull it off. UC and BYU both have an open date in early December but my guess is they won’t play because they won’t be able to agree where to play, as if home field this season really matters.
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Post by doc on Nov 24, 2020 16:47:18 GMT
One thing is 100% certain we are not going to convince each other of anything. Different people are going to have different beliefs and that is what America is all about. [/quote]
I think this sums up this thread as I basically said in an earlier post. Trying to debate politics on a college football chat board is pretty much a recipe for disaster. There’s no way anyone is going to budge from their political opinions.
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Post by doc on Nov 23, 2020 21:07:03 GMT
Yeah, this is a huge blow for the Bengals but that's what you get when you try to protect a $30 million QB with a 10 cent offensive line - the line they put out there was criminal and his injury is no surprise to Bengal fans, we're actually surprised it took so long. And unfortunately it's far worse than you could expect.
So Tee Higgins won't have the opportunity to dunk many balls over the goalpost moving forward, Ryan Finley is not an NFL QB and my prediction is the Bengals wont win another game this season. They probably won't have Burrow for most of next season, either, so they better find someone who can get the ball to the receivers or they could go 0-fer until Burrow returns. My Sunday afternoons in december just freed up.....
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